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D'Espice
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Jun 25, 2007, 06:45 AM
 
My PowerBook G3/400 Pismo has been causing some problems lately. I'm using it as usual, meaning that I'm putting it to sleep as soon as I'm done working. That works great for approx. three days - sometimes more, sometimes less - then at some point instead of waking up it just crashes. It sits there, black screen, harddrive running, no mouse pointer, no nothing. Closing the lid does not put it back to sleep but does absolutely nothing instead. I have to force it to power off (pressing and holding the power-button for three seconds) then power it up again and it'll boot just fine. It'll run for another more or less three days, without any crashes, problems, whatever, but then at some point we're back to square one.

It doesn't matter whether or not the power supply is plugged in when the laptop crashes during wake up or whether it's running on battery. It doesn't make a difference whether the battery is full, half empty or almost down to null. It seems completely random. Anyone have an idea what could be causing this? Is there a crash dump or at least some kind of crash log that I could analyze? I'm running 10.4.9
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Jun 25, 2007, 08:54 AM
 
Zap pram?

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Jun 25, 2007, 09:02 AM
 
Similar thing happens to my MBP, but when that happens, I can put it back to sleep by closing the lid. Never found a solution to this though...
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Jun 27, 2007, 03:37 AM
 
The PRAM has nothing to do with all this, which is why I'm not zapping it. The PRAM saves information such as the time, the boot device, resolution, etc. I really don't see how zapping it would solve this problem... that's like saying 'if your car won't start take out the spare tire and put it back in'

highstakes: As I've said - I can't put it back to sleep, no way. It just sits there and does absolutely nothing



Any other suggestions? It's been almost two days and I'm afraid this is going to happen again rather soon(ish)
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Jun 27, 2007, 08:49 AM
 
this happened often on my pismo (same model).
thinking it was software, i wiped my drive, reinstalled everything.

problem came back.

my tech guy suggested it was a logic board issue, but i never figured it out...
(sorry, not much help, but at least, it may not be unusual for the pismo...)
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Jun 27, 2007, 10:21 AM
 
Ok, thanks a lot. Maybe it's just 'normal' for the Pismo and Apple didn't really bother to fix a problem that only occurs on already 'outdated' hardware. Did it happen with 10.4 only or also with 10.3? Or could you even pinpoint it to a specific 10.4.x update?
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Jun 27, 2007, 11:26 AM
 
Originally Posted by D'Espice View Post
Ok, thanks a lot. Maybe it's just 'normal' for the Pismo and Apple didn't really bother to fix a problem that only occurs on already 'outdated' hardware. Did it happen with 10.4 only or also with 10.3? Or could you even pinpoint it to a specific 10.4.x update?
my pismo never made it to 10.4, so this happened in 10.3 days..
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