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Kevin · Feb 4, 2007, 01:10 PM

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_033094010.html/

When Wright County deputies opened up a smelly rented storage locker last June, they had no idea what they would find. Inside a man had stored 50 gallon jugs of urine

"I said, 'Oh my gosh, this is a meth lab, this is a urine extraction lab,'" Howell said.

It's a new way to get meth. Some people drink the meth-tainted urine outright to get high. Others filter the drug back out through the cooking process.

Peter · Feb 4, 2007, 01:26 PM

man druggies are awesome.

Kevin · Feb 4, 2007, 01:30 PM

meth users are a class of their own. I tell ya.

Peter · Feb 4, 2007, 02:38 PM

I keep reading meth as math

DeathToWindows · Feb 4, 2007, 05:29 PM

Well, it makes sense... methamphetamine doesn't fully break down before being expelled in urine, so recovering it from urine makes sense (although, it is a disgusting idea).

imitchellg5 · Feb 4, 2007, 05:31 PM

I just threw up in my mouth.

Kevin · Feb 4, 2007, 05:53 PM

Did it have meth in it?

Rumor · Feb 4, 2007, 06:26 PM

If you haven't, watch Spun.

Jawbone54 · Feb 4, 2007, 06:27 PM

This whole meth thing is just sounding better and better! I guess I'd better join the club now while it's still really cool.

- - e r i k - - · Feb 4, 2007, 07:00 PM

This is nothing new:

Originally Posted by The Good Drugs Guide

Ecstasy is rapidly broken down by the liver but about 60% enters the urine unchanged. The urine could be drunk to recycle it, in the same way that Siberian tribesmen drink each other's urine after eating magic mushrooms. This is known in most circles as 'desperate'.

Kevin · Feb 4, 2007, 07:38 PM

I heard stories of coke dealers making coke-head women be human toilet paper for hits of crack. Now you can put that together in your mind how you wish, but that is as graphic as I go.

mitchell_pgh · Feb 4, 2007, 07:43 PM

I thought meth was as low as you could get... but now, there is the person that drinks the pee of a meth user for a hit.

WINNER!!!

houstonmacbro · Feb 4, 2007, 07:44 PM

This is just wrong on so many different levels.

houstonmacbro · Feb 4, 2007, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

If you haven't, watch Spun.

Spun was awesome ... but really, really disturbing.

houstonmacbro · Feb 4, 2007, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I heard stories of coke dealers making coke-head women be human toilet paper for hits of crack. Now you can put that together in your mind how you wish, but that is as graphic as I go.

I think I have a mental picture ... and I am ... disturbed beyond words.

Kevin · Feb 4, 2007, 08:21 PM

Yeah I have had my "vices" before but I can honestly say I never went that far into the gutter.

crack is wack. So is meth.

JoshuaZ · Feb 4, 2007, 09:00 PM

Just when you didn`t think drugs users could stoop any lower.....

ewwww.... maybe when you start drinking someone elses urine, you start to relize you have a problem.

houstonmacbro · Feb 4, 2007, 09:02 PM

Don't you think there should be some voice that kicks in BEFORE you do the act. I mean, like when you're THINKING about drinking someone else's urine...?

I'm just saying...

OldManMac · Feb 4, 2007, 09:16 PM

People wind up losing their families, homes, cars, etc., over drug addiction. Once they're addicted, the voice is no longer relevant, if it ever existed in the first place.

Kevin · Feb 4, 2007, 09:39 PM

The monkey on the back screams louder than the voice.

macintologist · Feb 4, 2007, 10:36 PM

This would never be happening if it weren't for the war on drugs.

macintologist · Feb 4, 2007, 10:38 PM

Just when you didn`t think drugs users could stoop any lower.....

The reason they stoop to these levels is because there are no legal means to get their fix.

Have you ever heard of alcohol prohibition and making bathtub gin and how gross and unsafe that stuff was?

Kevin · Feb 4, 2007, 10:57 PM

You don't have to be PRO drug to see the WAR on drugs is only still going on because it's BIG MONEY.

Sub · Feb 4, 2007, 11:04 PM

I love looking at the picture of the lady with the huge smile right next to it...

climber · Feb 5, 2007, 12:04 AM

I doubt Meth would be the problem it is today if "safer" drugs were not illegal.

OldManMac · Feb 5, 2007, 12:16 AM

There are no "safer" drugs. Anything that alters our perception has the possibility of creating havoc in people and society, when used by people who are looking to escape reality.

- - e r i k - - · Feb 5, 2007, 12:32 AM

So why then are alcohol and tobacco legal again?

climber · Feb 5, 2007, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by KarlG

There are no "safer" drugs. Anything that alters our perception has the possibility of creating havoc in people and society, when used by people who are looking to escape reality.

While I agree 100% with your second sentence, your first is simply false. Meth is one of the most physically damaging street drugs you can find. All drugs have different side effects and adverse reactions. That includes prescription drugs. Some drugs are considered quite toxic and as such have to be considered carefully by the clinician. Others are much "safer" with significantly less side effects. The differences in addict-ability between different drugs is also fairly well established.

Some street durgs are capable of killing you, even without an overdose, on the first exposure. Others are much more benign. The argument that all illegal drugs are "equally bad" is simply stupid. It is a moral argument instead of a logical or scientific one.

macintologist · Feb 5, 2007, 01:51 AM

Poison is in the dosage, not the drug itself.

flyordiedays · Feb 5, 2007, 02:18 AM

Getting a "second fix" is also one reason why meth heads will often eat their scabs.

FWIW, it can cost north of 25k to clean up a meth lab. That is what the tab was for lab removal/clean up at my family's motel, and that setup was in only one room. I can't imagine the cost for "fixed" labs, like in houses, where the production is often on a much larger scale.

climber · Feb 5, 2007, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

Poison is in the dosage, not the drug itself.

Toxicity is a function of each substance and the dosage or exposure. Each drug is different. Denial of that fact has been a common theme in the anti-drug culture for many decade. I do not agree with that approach.

Any substance if taken in excess can cause harm. That is even true of plain water. But that does not change the fact that some substances are significantly more dangerous. Meth is certainly one of them.

PB2K · 12:16 PM

everything you do too much will harm you

too much work : you get stressed
too much eating : you get fat
too much training : you get a heart attack
too much drugs : you become a zombie
et cetera

123

Peter · Feb 5, 2007, 07:05 AM

can't they just do a nice drug like heroin?

PB2K · 12:17 PM

123

Kevin · Feb 5, 2007, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

Poison is in the dosage, not the drug itself.

Depends on the drug. Meth is poisonous at any dose. It starts killing your body from the first use.

I am not sure some people actually know what meth is made from.. or how it's made.

Nasty, nasty stuff. The crash is horrible as well.

I've done meth ONCE. We were "chasing it" like you would heroin because snorting it is WAAY too painful.

Never again. Pure evil.

The thing is I HATED the feeling and such but still wanted more. Had I liked it I could have just imagined....

Kevin · Feb 5, 2007, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by PB2K

i met a guy who was addicted to ketamine...i asked him how someone can get used to that but he said that he took it in the morning because otherwise he would feel so tired and restless.

K is more of a psychological addiction than anything else. It's no so much a social drug IMHO because you get into "k-holes" and are just a waste. That stuff just knocked me out.

és: · Feb 5, 2007, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

meth users are a class of their own. I tell ya.

Definately. They are not like the lazy pot smokers or the 'H' junkies... They've got some real class, I tellsya...

Goooooo Meth heads!

Kevin · Feb 5, 2007, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by és:

Definately. They are not like the lazy pot smokers or the 'H' junkies... They've got some real class, I tellsya...

Goooooo Meth heads!

Yeah they just stare out windows, call people at 4am in the morning to get "money for their kids breakfast"

Railroader · Feb 5, 2007, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

Poison is in the dosage, not the drug itself.

I wish what you said was true...

I have spoken with people who have done crack once. Just Once. And were addicted for life. They can't stop thinking about it even after not doing it for years.

It is a poison.

Kevin · Feb 5, 2007, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Railroader

I wish what you said was true...

I have spoken with people who have done crack once. Just Once. And were addicted for life. They can't stop thinking about it even after not doing it for years.

It is a poison.

I know a few people like this. They smell anything even remotely like crack and it drives them nuts.

One time I was over said person's house and him and his wife was having a "pillow fight" well I guess at one point a lamp's cover got in contact with the bulb and started "singing"

I was told the smell it gave off was just like crack, and the guy stated wigging out about "someone is smoking crack"

It really messed with him.

Eug · Feb 5, 2007, 12:50 PM

In the old days, penicillin was recovered from urine for reuse.

TomR · Feb 5, 2007, 02:12 PM

I like when they die from it! That's the best!

Rumor · Feb 5, 2007, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by TomR

I like when they die from it! That's the best!

What an absolutely horrible thing to say.

Rumor · Feb 5, 2007, 02:29 PM

I tried it once in my younger days. I couldn't understand why someone would willingly deprive themselves of sleep for days on end and not eat anything either. Those are two of my favorite things to do.*

*At the time, I was a stoner. I quit smoking a few years ago, but I still highly enjoy sleeping and eating.

TomR · Feb 5, 2007, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

What an absolutely horrible thing to say.

Well these clowns are better off dead. It's not like they don't know what could happen from using it. THEY KNOW and STILL do it. Screw them.

Same with AIDS people who get it from unsafe sex or drugs, screw them too. It's not like it's a new problem, THEY KNOW it's dangerous and STILL do this stuff anyway. I don't feel the least bit bad for them.

Kevin · Feb 5, 2007, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Eug

In the old days, penicillin was recovered from urine for reuse.

I'd drink pee if I was in a life or death matter. I don't think anyone would make fun of me for doing so.

Originally Posted by TomR

Well these clowns are better off dead. It's not like they don't know what could happen from using it. THEY KNOW and STILL do it. Screw them.

They are no different than you. You may THINK you are above them but you are not. Normally the drugs isn't the problem. Tell me why do you think people do things they know are bad for them? People do what they have to to get by. People self medicate. I'd rather these people get HELP. They are not "clowns"

This type of speech always comes from those that are naive about what drug abuse is about.

Rumor · Feb 5, 2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by TomR

Well these clowns are better off dead. It's not like they don't know what could happen from using it. THEY KNOW and STILL do it. Screw them.

Same with AIDS people who get it from unsafe sex or drugs, screw them too. It's not like it's a new problem, THEY KNOW it's dangerous and STILL do this stuff anyway. I don't feel the least bit bad for them.

You're a real piece of work. You obviously have little or no understanding of what an addiction can do to a person.

By the way, your sig violates the guidelines.

climber · Feb 5, 2007, 03:07 PM

I think he does know, He just does not give a damn. By the way, drug abuse can cause an inability to have empathy for others... Maybe that is his problem.

TomR · Feb 5, 2007, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

You're a real piece of work. You obviously have little or no understanding of what an addiction can do to a person.

By the way, your sig violates the guidelines.

I KNOW what addiction can do, I don't feel I'm above anyone else for starters.

People that get involved with that crap KNOW it can kill them or screw them up for life yet they continue to do it anyway. I stand by my posts.

Pick on my sig, nice. You're mad now because my opinion differers from yours. How sweet. I'll remove my sig so you don't have a breakdown....

PB2K · Feb 5, 2007, 03:09 PM

it's a stupid sig anyway