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10.5.2 is out
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Just seen it in my Software Update.
Hope it's been worth the wait!
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Let me be the first to say "Downloading now" and "no problems so far".
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As always I will wait until you nice people guinea pig it for me.
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So does it have new Stacks or not?
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Here's for hoping it's worth the prolonged wait.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
Let me be the first to say "Downloading now" and "no problems so far".
And let others to actually do it.
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
So does it have new Stacks or not?
It does.
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Well, the release notes don't say anything, so I'm not hopeful, but:
Can someone check if Time Machine supports Airport Disks on the 802.11n Airport Extreme? (Of course I mean without using the defaults write… command in Terminal.)
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TimeMachine to Airport Extreme Disks?
I'm downloading now and will test it if no one else answers by then.
341Mb, wow.
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Stacks is fixed... Finally.
Haven't tried Time Machine yet.
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Damn. That is a large update. Updating now! Hopefully it fixes the wireless networking issue!!!
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Where do you get 341 MB? Mine is 180 MB.
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I'm about to update, I have a airdisk, I will try TM
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Originally Posted by mdc
TimeMachine to Airport Extreme Disks?
I'm downloading now and will test it if no one else answers by then.
341Mb, wow.
It's only 180 for me. MacBook Pro
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Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO
I'm about to update, I have a airdisk, I will try TM
You know, the Airport Extreme may need a firmware update too.
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w00t!
Greatest. Update. Ever.
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Yeah mine is only 180mb, and stacks is sorted now for all those bothered. Also, there is an icon on the top toolbar for time machine.
There isn't an airport extreme base station update me thinks.
EDIT: there is now appearing to be a 'leopard graphics update' appearing in my software update which is 47MB (or near enough)
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Originally Posted by bradbissell
Haven't tried Time Machine yet.
Still doesn't backup to my other internal drive. Also backing up to airdisk still doesn't work.
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Originally Posted by goMac
Build number?
9c31
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341mb here. MacBook Pro 2.2Ghz. Leopard graphics update installed too...
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Originally Posted by Person Man
You know, the Airport Extreme may need a firmware update too.
You know, the Airport doesn't need a firmware update to copy files onto it...
Then again, I'm not having any of the wide spread airdisk problems that people keep reporting...
And, no, no TM backups to AirDisks.
EDIT: Also, you can't turn the transparent menu bar off.
Worst. Update. Ever.
One thing to note, new shared disk icons:
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about 341mb here (2g core2duo mini).
so far so good (altho apple's setup assistant came up after installing...)
safari...faster? seems so...
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Originally Posted by fisherKing
about 341mb here (2g core2duo mini).
so far so good (altho apple's setup assistant came up after installing...)
safari...faster? seems so...
My friend was talking about safari being updated or something in 10.5.2 - it could well have been.
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Time Machine tries to start the backup to the AirDisk, but in the end fails. Not sure why. Probably does need an update to the airport extreme. Maybe when time capsule ships?
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That is a whole lotta update! At 341 megs, thinking about making sure my backup is good...
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Jeebus, thats a lot of bytes. I should plug this puppy in before I start downloading.
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Sounds groovy. I've just taken my G4 PB in to get its hard drive replaced, but it has been looking forward to this update, yes indeed!
Meantime will try it on mini this evening. Does it by chance make the iTunes dashboard widget work -at all-? It has never worked quite correctly, and Leopard really messed with it - just wondering if I'll be writing yet another bit of feedback to this effect this evening....
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Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO
EDIT: Also, you can't turn the transparent menu bar off.
System Prefs... Desktop & Screen Saver. There's an option for Translucent Menu Bar.
I also notice a little Time Machine icon in my menu bar to save me a few clicks when I want to see when I last backed up.
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Originally Posted by giggs11
System Prefs... Desktop & Screen Saver. There's a option for Translucent Menu Bar.
damn... you got there first.
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Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO
EDIT: Also, you can't turn the transparent menu bar off.
According to this you can:
About the Mac OS X 10.5.2 Update
Desktop
* Addresses legibility issues with the menu bar with an option to turn off transparency in Desktop & Screen Saver preferences.
* Adjusts menus to be slightly-less translucent overall.
Anyone know if it fixes the Secure Erase issue with the Finder? It isn't listed as one of the fixes.
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Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO
EDIT: Also, you can't turn the transparent menu bar off.
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Bull.
Preferences > Desktop
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Originally Posted by giggs11
System Prefs... Desktop & Screen Saver. There's an option for Translucent Menu Bar.
I also notice a little Time Machine icon in my menu bar to save me a few clicks when I want to see when I last backed up.
Ah, I see now. It should be in the Appearance pane.
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Like bradbissell said, Time Machine starts to try backup to Airport Disk, but then fails.
Time Machine seems to be seeing my Airport drive since inside Time Machine preferences it shows my drive name and the correct amount of free disk space.
Hopefully an update to Airport Extreme is coming out soon.
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I wonder why some are getting 341, some 180. Of those who are getting 341, do you currently have 10.5.0 or 10.5.1?
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Is Safari 3.1 included?
Nothing in my Software Update yet.
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Originally Posted by adamfishercox
I wonder why some are getting 341, some 180. Of those who are getting 341, do you currently have 10.5.0 or 10.5.1?
I got 341 but I think it was because I am on PPC. My intel was 180.
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -
Is Safari 3.1 included?
Nothing in my Software Update yet.
No 3.0.4. this is not the faster fancier safari we heard about just 2 days ago.
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So AFTER I update to 10.5.2 I get another software update called "Leopard graphics update" which is recommended for all 10.5.2 users. WTF??!
"Leopard Graphics Update is recommended for all users and improves the stability and compatibility of your Mac. This update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2."
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Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO
You know, the Airport doesn't need a firmware update to copy files onto it...
[snip]
And, no, no TM backups to AirDisks.
No, you don't need a firmware update to copy files to an AirDisk, but the Airport Base Station does NOT verify that a write was successful. In other words, it passes the data to be written to the USB hard drive, but doesn't check to make sure it actually got written or that it got written correctly.
This is fine for manual copies, as the user can verify that the copy was successful, but for something like Time Machine, which is "set it and forget it," it's a potential critical problem. What if something happens and the Time Machine backup is screwed up somehow? And you don't find out about it until you need it later, and then you're screwed.
A firmware update would be needed to solve this problem. You can turn on the Time Machine backup to AirDisk right now with a "defaults write" command (hidden preference), but it's unreliable.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
So AFTER I update to 10.5.2 I get another software update called "Leopard graphics update" which is recommended for all 10.5.2 users. WTF??!
"Leopard Graphics Update is recommended for all users and improves the stability and compatibility of your Mac. This update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2."
as it says, it needs 10.5.2 installed first, in order to be installed...
341 meg on both my intel & ppc macs, both at 10.5.1.
safari IS faster on the intel (am still downloading on my powerbook, but it's important to post as much as possible and as often as possible about os x updates... )
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Originally Posted by fisherKing
as it says, it needs 10.5.2 installed first, in order to be installed...
Well duh the point is why is it not built into 10.5.2 especially when it seems so important?
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
So AFTER I update to 10.5.2 I get another software update called "Leopard graphics update" which is recommended for all 10.5.2 users. WTF??!
"Leopard Graphics Update is recommended for all users and improves the stability and compatibility of your Mac. This update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2."
Yeah, why was this not rolled into the v10.5.2 update?
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Originally Posted by rickey939
Yeah, why was this not rolled into the v10.5.2 update?
It was originally but Apple broke it out later in the seed cycle.
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Originally Posted by bradbissell
Stacks is fixed... Finally.
What do you mean by 'fixed'?
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I reckon they forgot about it, and then realised, it was one of these kinda moments:
"SH*T, WE'VE FORGOTTEN TO RELEASE THE GRAPHICS UPDATE WITH IT"
I get them all the time.
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More likely it was "Oh, sh*t, this update is already 180MB, maybe we should split it up into two updates to make it seem smaller. Which is the largest non-critical fix we can split out?"
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -
More likely it was "Oh, sh*t, this update is already 180MB, maybe we should split it up into two updates to make it seem smaller. Which is the largest non-critical fix we can split out?"
Yeah, I think Steve Jobs would have thought it to be a 'cool' idea.
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