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wolfen · Jul 20, 2002, 11:16 PM

Current Apple users, they already knew you'd be mad. And don't think they're being arrogant. The Motorola bamboozle has put Apple execs in a bind. What can they really do about it? All they can do is coil up for the next strike, the next push, the next big move.

If history be our guide, Apple will come out with new hardware in the nick of time. Marketing is a numbers game Apple simply hasn't been playing until it was ready. All this Switch advertising will shimmer like diamonds to the disenchanted Windows flock. Then SHAZAM! a drooly G5 is unveiled. <insert heavenly chorus and holy white light here> They don't expect PC users to run out and switch *TODAY*, folks. But you better believe Apple will be ready for Christmas.

The issue, here, isn't what's better or worse -- it's that there's plenty of people like me TIRED of the torture. People with more money and ideals than patience. People who appreciate a company that isn't actively TRYING to screw them next year. Switch marketing will thoroughly scrape this barrel if they can make'em drool by Christmas.

BlackGriffen · Jul 20, 2002, 11:51 PM

Still, it would have been nice to have something out for the Back to School buying season. Unless they announce something in early to maybe mid August, they'll miss a time where consumers buy a fair number of computers.

BlackGriffen

starman · Jul 21, 2002, 12:05 AM

I've already decided to not buy another Mac until something "insanely great" comes out. I have a 733 MHz G4 and with these slow speed increments, it'll be another 4-5 years before I feel the need to upgrade.

THAT is Apple's problem.

Mike

Marcus74 · Jul 21, 2002, 12:57 AM

No excuses, Apple had it's day in the sun. It saddens me as the several hundred Mac users I know that Apple has died. WE will remember Apple with fondness and good feelings

This is a sad time for us all.

glorfindel · Jul 21, 2002, 01:04 AM

Apple and Microsoft must have both hired people to come to these boards and post nonsense.

The first poster (Apple) actually claims that Apple isn't the company to screw people like Microsoft, except when it has to (fork over the cash or lose email).

The above poster (Micrsoft) says that Apple is doomed.

Pathetic, unintelligent, and completely transparent ploys to influence people.

Corporate America is disgusting to me.

starman · Jul 21, 2002, 01:06 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />
Corporate America is disgusting to me.
<hr /></blockquote>Then find a nice plot of land in Italy and start a winery.

Mike

glorfindel · Jul 21, 2002, 01:13 AM

No comment.

BlackGriffen · Jul 21, 2002, 01:23 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by glorfindel:

Corporate America is disgusting to me.<hr /></blockquote>Yes, I've worked as a knife salesman, and hated it. I've also worked (two days) as a canvasser, and I can tell you that political America isn't much better. I was kind of iffy about the pay, but when I saw one of my supervisors pump a little old couple on social security until the wife gave us $5, I was absolutely disgusted.

I also knew another kid who worked as a knife salesman, and he absolutely loved it. He was very good at it, but I did a good job of pointing out how soulless he was becoming in his pursuit of coin, and he was even admitting, "I'm just going straight to Hell."

He is a friend, and I hope that I've tempered his greed to the point where he doesn't become another cookbook CEO. Too bad Wharton is turning out so many others who probably will...

It sounds to me like you would enjoy a song by Don Henley called "In the Garden of Allah," not to mention a few of his other songs.

BlackGriffen

Nonsuch · Jul 21, 2002, 01:37 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Marcus74:
No excuses, Apple had it's day in the sun. It saddens me as the several hundred Mac users I know that Apple has died. <hr /></blockquote>WTF?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Marcus74:
This is a sad time for us all.<hr /></blockquote>You go right on being sad. I'm looking forward to Jaguar.

willow89 · Jul 21, 2002, 01:38 AM

I was hoping to get another Macintosh, but it seems I'll be getting an x86 Athlon instead. I'll keep this Mac until things cool off for Apple, or until they vanish. Right now though I can't say things look too good for Apple.

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11011001 · Jul 21, 2002, 01:40 AM

And the 5th poster is some guy from either of these companies who is here to be sympathetic towards us... or something along those lines.

It's all a ploy, don't listen to them.

5 is just completing this little triad.

hehe..

I know he isn't but still.

Oi. Again, supremely annoyed at all this doom and gloom prophecy. It is a bunch of garbage, they are in a bit of a slump as far as hardware goes, but everything else is state of the art, and superior at this point. Jaguar is slick, really freaking slick... trust me... it rocks.

And pure raw speed is not everything. Speed means **** for a lot of things, even Photoshop (unless you are working with 100 mb files...and a lot of people are not doing that). The GUI is one of the most important things... if it is intuitive then it is a richer experience, and a simpler and more effecient one. I use windows a couple times a week, and it is a massive relief to go back to the Mac OS... even 9.

Stability is also another major issue, both XP and X seem to have this. Haven't used XP too much, but OS X is supremely stable. I have had maybe 4 kernel panics (a couple on startup from a damaged hard drive and the rest from games that hijack the GPU and mess stufff up)

Speed is still somewhat important, but like I said this is a slump, and we are still ok for a while longer. Apple will come through, they always do. This really is nothing to worry about, and nothing compared to situations that were FAR worse in the past.

This whining is over nothing.

Spheric Harlot · Jul 21, 2002, 12:25 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by willow89:
I was hoping to get another Macintosh, but it seems I'll be getting an x86 Athlon instead. I'll keep this Mac until things cool off for Apple, or until they vanish. Right now though I can't say things look too good for Apple.<hr /></blockquote>That's funny.

Has it really already been more than a year since the last wave of "Apple is going out of business, too bad"?

Apple's market share is rising; they ain't going away any time soon.

-spheric*

KaptainKaya · Jul 21, 2002, 02:19 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by willow89:
I was hoping to get another Macintosh, but it seems I'll be getting an x86 Athlon instead. I'll keep this Mac until things cool off for Apple, or until they vanish. Right now though I can't say things look too good for Apple.

<hr /></blockquote>Registered in June, what mac did you plan on buying? What do you have now? All of a sudden this forum is flourishing with newbies about Apple's doom.