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starman · Sep 30, 2003, 09:51 PM

It's supposed to be locked at GM at midnight tonight.

I'll let everyone know how it is.

Mike

gorickey · Sep 30, 2003, 09:53 PM

Cool.

I believe you...

starman · Sep 30, 2003, 09:56 PM

Yeah, I think I've gotten to the point where people here know I'm not BSing.

We're chatting about it now. He loves it. Unfortunately, he didn't take it home with him so I won't get it until tomorrow

Mike

Xeo · Sep 30, 2003, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by starman:
Yeah, I think I've gotten to the point where people here know I'm not BSing.

You have? When did that happen?

Grey Cell · Sep 30, 2003, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by starman:
It's supposed to be locked at GM at midnight tonight.

If that's true, cool. If it's not, well, that's also cool as far as I'm concerned... I'm patient.

I just installed 7B80 (OK, I guess I'm not *that* patient after all

) and I love it.

I wasn't sure whether I'd be willing to pay for the 10.3 upgrade. I'm sure now, though. When Panther hits the shelves, I'll be there waiting.

(edit: one smiley too many)

Adam Betts · Sep 30, 2003, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
You have? When did that happen?

Yeah I would like to know too.

starman · Sep 30, 2003, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
Yeah I would like to know too.

Oh, yeah, because I have a bad habit of making sh*t up in the OS X forums.

* 1000.

Mike

jessejlt · Sep 30, 2003, 10:20 PM

The guy from railhead.com ( I find him to be extremely reputable ) says that the latest internal is 83, though of course no official ADC seeds.
Correct me if I"m wrong, but is this not the first week since WWDC that Apple has failed to release an ADC seed?
jesse ;-)

BTP · Sep 30, 2003, 10:29 PM

I had not been anticipating Panther much until I saw it recently. Now I am waiting desperately like the rest of you. So this is welcome news.

As for you Mike, I take you at your word. You're a straight shooter as as far as I have ever known.

iDriveX · Sep 30, 2003, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by starman:
Yeah, I think I've gotten to the point where people here know I'm not BSing.

Yeah me too Mike....Oh wait a second...

beb · Sep 30, 2003, 10:38 PM

Will 7B84 really be like 1984?

Xeo · Sep 30, 2003, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by starman:
Oh, yeah, because I have a bad habit of making sh*t up in the OS X forums. * 1000.

Mike

Well I didn't mean to imply you make stuff up. There's been no evidence of that. However, I don't know what you've posted to "get you to the point" where you're reputable when it comes to rumors. You don't post in the OS X forums much at all.

For the record, I don't doubt you're being honest, as far as you know, with what you're saying. I just don't know that it's true either. Time will tell.

Adam Betts · Sep 30, 2003, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by starman:
Oh, yeah, because I have a bad habit of making sh*t up in the OS X forums. * 1000.

Whoa, take it easy man. Bad day today?

Xeo's right, you don't post much in OS X forum so I have no idea where you got the idea that all of us trusted you 100% already.

Agasthya · Sep 30, 2003, 11:00 PM

Not trying to rain on your parade or anything, but isn't it a bit premature for Apple to all of a sudden jump to GM? I remember with Jag they put in the notes that the builds leading up to the GM were Release Candidates. I haven't heard anything about any RCs recently...or am I just out of the loop?

alex_kac · Sep 30, 2003, 11:09 PM

RC1-4 were posted internally at Apple for the starting with build 81. Think about that and you'll see that build 82 is NOT GM. They honestly hoped that 82 was GM (it was thought it was GM for a day) - then the same thing happened in RC4.

This was as of saturday when I spoke to a very close friend in cupertino.

Anyhow...believe me or not, but do realize that ADC members have had new builds every week for awhile...until now.

nobitacu · Oct 1, 2003, 12:05 AM

The final version of 10.3 is sooooooo close I can taste it!!!!!!!! yummmmmm!!!! give me give me give me give me!

Ming

LightWaver-67 · Oct 1, 2003, 12:14 AM

Again... the "bottom-line" for me will be when there is a retail package sitting on the shelf of my local Apple Store and I fork-over some cash to get the REAL "GM", "final build", or whatever the phudge you wanna call it.

All these seeded builds and pre-release copies floating around the net do very little to interest me other than fleeting curiosity of seeing screenshots posted by people.

Other than that... I don't really care. When Panther is released to the public... THAT is the only "build" I care about.

heheheh...

WJMoore · Oct 1, 2003, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by LightWaver-67:
Other than that... I don't really care. When Panther is released to the public... THAT is the only "build" I care about.

I feel similarly but all this RC/GM discussion relates to how soon that "build" will be on that shelf for you to buy

TheIceMan · Oct 1, 2003, 01:12 AM

starman: Yes keep us updated. Man, if this is true then WOOHOO!

BimmerBoy79 · Oct 1, 2003, 01:27 AM

I picked up my new G5 today at my local mac store here in Canada. I asked if they had a firm date yet for Panther and one guy said the 24th of October and the other guy said no it was supposed to be on the 14th. So, I dunno...but October sounds like it's going to be the month!

Just thought I would share.

Michael.

Landos Mustache · Oct 1, 2003, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by BimmerBoy79:
I picked up my new G5 today at my local mac store here in Canada.

Trust me, they don't know.

Moonray · Oct 1, 2003, 01:45 AM

Ohhhh another GM thread... where people don't need to be ashamed for pointless posts.
But shouldn't there come the GM of the new 10.2.8 first?

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superlarry · Oct 1, 2003, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by starman:
It's supposed to be locked at GM at midnight tonight.

I'll let everyone know how it is.

Mike

no offense, but you could've waited until then to post it. and then it didn't happen.
if it's a matter of getting there first.. then good job mikey!!

Gul Banana · Oct 1, 2003, 02:05 AM

I thought there were lots of bugs remaining, though?

Dale Sorel · Oct 1, 2003, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by BimmerBoy79:
So, I dunno...but October sounds like it's going to be the month!

Hey, me thinks it's October already...of course I'm sure there are plenty of you out there that don't believe me

eizzumdm · Oct 1, 2003, 05:46 AM

Well....

A while back it was discussed whether it would be possible for Apple to release Mac OS 10.3 on 10/3. Since October 3rd is two days away, that's obviously impossible.

However, I was just thinking...

We have got an entire month for Apple to meet the deadline of shipping Panther in 10/03 (October 2003).

So if the final candidate stage goes well, we may still have 10.3 in 10/03.

sanity assassin · Oct 1, 2003, 06:03 AM

I thought it took at least 3 weeks from becoming GM to manufacturing. They need to get all those discs pressed, boxed, and sent out.

voodoo · Oct 1, 2003, 06:06 AM

Well I recon they already have had the boxes designed and printed. No reason to make them in the last minute.

But yeah, from GM it is a couple of weeks process to get the actual box to customers.

nobitacu · Oct 1, 2003, 06:10 AM

Oh man... I so can't wait... still have my credit card ready to order from online Apple Store. It'll be a fresh install for me, I still think that would be a lot better than updating. More work, but well worth the work in the end.

Ming

LightWaver-67 · Oct 1, 2003, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by WJMoore:
I feel similarly but all this RC/GM discussion relates to how soon that "build" will be on that shelf for you to buy

No, no, no... I understand that... I'm just saying that none of this speculation will CHANGE that date. It won't bring Panther's release any closer or further away.

Originally posted by voodoo:
Well I recon they already have had the boxes designed and printed. No reason to make them in the last minute.

But yeah, from GM it is a couple of weeks process to get the actual box to customers.

Heheheh... yeah, and look what happened last time. They pulled "Package Tracking" from Sherlock at the last minute although it was a "Feature" on the printed retail box of Jaguar.

Whooops...!!! Heheheh

gralem · Oct 1, 2003, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by eizzumdm:
Well....

A while back it was discussed whether it would be possible for Apple to release Mac OS 10.3 on 10/3. Since October 3rd is two days away, that's obviously impossible.

However, I was just thinking...

We have got an entire month for Apple to meet the deadline of shipping Panther in 10/03 (October 2003).

So if the final candidate stage goes well, we may still have 10.3 in 10/03.

Not true...if the want to go gold on 10/03 (US time format=10.3.2003)...that would be friday. (Of course all of october is 10/2003)

---gralem

gralem · Oct 1, 2003, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
Xeo's right, you don't post much in OS X forum so I have no idea where you got the idea that all of us trusted you 100% already.

Yeah, starman has only 3850+ posts to macnn. What a loser! I can't beleive anyone with less than 5k posts are allowed to post OR reply in the forums at all! I say we have a recall on this thread!

(wait...wouldn't my reply work better in the forum? and what the hell do I think I'm doing? I shouldn't be replying until I have 5k posts. please disregard)

---gralem

mishap · Oct 1, 2003, 10:02 AM

I thought when I started reading this thread....that i would be reading something about Panther, but instead all i get is 30+ messages discussing starman.

maxelson · Oct 1, 2003, 10:39 AM

If it has gone GM, then Apple is not behaving typically about it. Nothing on ADC- ADC still at 74 (where it has been for an unusually long time).
I think the GM thing is suspect. Who is this guy who is getting it before the entire dev community, I wonder?

OwlBoy · Oct 1, 2003, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by maxelson:
If it has gone GM, then Apple is not behaving typically about it. Nothing on ADC- ADC still at 74 (where it has been for an unusually long time).
I think the GM thing is suspect. Who is this guy who is getting it before the entire dev community, I wonder?

Steve.

sanity assassin · Oct 1, 2003, 11:03 AM

I heard from someone, who heard from another person who read in a forum that Panther has gone up to 7b86 internally. Honest.

starman · Oct 1, 2003, 11:06 AM

Well, for what it's worth, he's dropping it on my server now. It's a 1.4GB DVD image (yes, a bootable DVD). I won't know anything about it until I get home.

Mike

gorickey · Oct 1, 2003, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by starman:
Well, for what it's worth, he's dropping it on my server now. It's a 1.4GB DVD image (yes, a bootable DVD). I won't know anything about it until I get home.

Mike

Cool, check in tonight with the latest...

Anand · Oct 1, 2003, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by mishap:
I thought when I started reading this thread....that i would be reading something about Panther, but instead all i get is 30+ messages discussing starman.

You better shut your mouth or they will start talking about you!

G0Ducks · Oct 1, 2003, 02:17 PM

I too spoke with my Apple Guy at the University of Oregon BookStore. He said mid to late october.. So there's two for ya! Unless you think that no one knows...c'maan!

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Trust me, they don't know.

Adam Betts · Oct 1, 2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by gralem:
Yeah, starman has only 3850+ posts to macnn. What a loser! I can't beleive anyone with less than 5k posts are allowed to post OR reply in the forums at all! I say we have a recall on this thread!

(wait...wouldn't my reply work better in the forum? and what the hell do I think I'm doing? I shouldn't be replying until I have 5k posts. please disregard)

Way to jump to conclusions.

I never said anything about his post counts, idiot

ambush · Oct 1, 2003, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Gul Banana:
I thought there were lots of bugs remaining, though?

That's for 10.3.x, dude!

gralem · Oct 1, 2003, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
Way to jump to conclusions.

I never said anything about his post counts, idiot

You said, "you don't post much in OS X forum". Looks to me like he does post a lot. If logic == idiot, I do not consider you an idiot at all

---gralem

nredman · Oct 1, 2003, 04:51 PM

i just read macrumors.com and someone said "Apparently, internal releases are up to build 7B85 for Panther. Only a couple of known bugs remain. No more details."

could be bs i don't know anything

just thought i'd throw it out there

Adam Betts · Oct 1, 2003, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by gralem:
You said, "you don't post much in OS X forum". Looks to me like he does post a lot. If logic == idiot, I do not consider you an idiot at all

He post more in Lounge, not OS X forum. It's alright, I forgive you for not reading my post clearly.

bracken · Oct 1, 2003, 04:56 PM

I picked up my new G5 today at my local mac store here in Canada. I asked if they had a firm date yet for Panther and one guy said the 24th of October and the other guy said no it was supposed to be on the 14th.

The bottom rung of the 3000 ft. ladder, the janitors, the retail people don't know, they're guessing, they're acting like big-shots to the first sucker-straight-off-the-Amish-carriage that listens. And neither does the tech support person know. And that car salesman at that Ford dealer in Witchita? He doesn't know about the internal happenings in Dearborn either. These people are so far out of the loop it's ridiculous.
"I'm in the know, don't you know?"
Good grief.

Agasthya · Oct 1, 2003, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by nredman:
i just read macrumors.com and someone said "Apparently, internal releases are up to build 7B85 for Panther. Only a couple of known bugs remain. No more details."

could be bs i don't know anything just thought i'd throw it out there

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/...01164435.shtml

MacRumors is now saying that 85 has been reported as GM by two sources.

Moonray · Oct 1, 2003, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Agasthya:
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/...01164435.shtml

MacRumors is now saying that 85 has been reported as GM by two sources.

Yes, they read MacNN forums and refer to this thread here

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nredman · Oct 1, 2003, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Moonray:
Yes, they read MacNN forums and refer to this thread here

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*LOL* classic

starman · Oct 1, 2003, 07:59 PM

The upload just finished, and I'm burning it to a DVD-RW. We'll see....

Mike