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salvai · Oct 5, 2003, 03:30 PM

What if my disc 1 image is 505mb in size, but my kernel version is Sept 24?

/confused

S.

Hash · Oct 5, 2003, 03:38 PM

it seems that mod and piracy could answer your question..but you have to free your mind to accept it

Grrr · Oct 5, 2003, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Patcarla:
where was it spell "panter"?

3 times no less..

Maybe it's nothing, but it looked a bit suspect to me. I'll admit though, from what I can tell it doesn't seem any different in use to B80.
Files sizes are very different though, granted.

bleuvixen · Oct 5, 2003, 03:46 PM

7B80:

Userxxx: uname -a
Darwin my_computer.local 7.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.0.0: Mon Sep 22 22:37:38 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-515.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc

MD5 (/mach_kernel) = 4f73d9e5c729ea31ef5f07b0292e2abb

7B85:

my-Computer:~ me$ uname -a
Darwin my-Computer.local 7.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.0.0: Wed Sep 24 15:48:39 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-517.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc

MD5 (/mach_kernel) = 75c9e4f059c34997cb70d4d8a32bf36d

That must have been quite a bib-per-bit comparison you did there, seems you missed a few :-D

bwahahahaha

v0id7 · Oct 5, 2003, 03:54 PM

why not just wait till theres adc word on 85 till we do anything with it?

Vader�s Pinch of Death · Oct 5, 2003, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Grrr:
3 times no less..

Maybe it's nothing, but it looked a bit suspect to me. I'll admit though, from what I can tell it doesn't seem any different in use to B80.
Files sizes are very different though, granted.

So, that is just because of the fool who started the torrent file, the actual images are named correctly:

"Mac_OS_X_10.3_7B85_User_CD_1.dmg"

pooka · Oct 5, 2003, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by v0id7:
why not just wait till theres adc word on 85 till we do anything with it?

Here's an idea. Why not just wait until it's in a box and sitting on the shelf at an Apple store or ChumpUSA before doing anything with it?

Hell, I plan on waiting till they have it pre-installed on the G5s before walking into the store and running out with one. That way you're sure to get a version with the debug code disabled.

Better have duals on display.

geekwagon · Oct 5, 2003, 04:18 PM

This got me curious so I used the find command to md5 every file on the 7b80 cd and diff'ed it against the 7b85 cd downloaded from a certain site. Basically every version.plist is different, which is consistent with the way that a build process works. But almost all of the contents of the packages have been changed as well:

< MD5 (./Packages/iCal.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz) = fadb3cf3276c2361a7e24f13c232b319
---
> MD5 (./Packages/iCal.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz) = 535f4d88af562e9f654804ece59b7926

< MD5 (./Packages/iPhoto.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz) = 7fb378db518c81eefe83319990f710a8
---
> MD5 (./Packages/iPhoto.pkg/Contents/Archive.pax.gz) = 6588a917b1454af9c9c26e4c0a4be4f2

etc. I don't have CD 1 yet, but definately 2 and 3 are different builds, unless someone went to the trouble to rebuild all these installer archives (which would be a royal PITA, I imagine)

piracy · Oct 5, 2003, 04:29 PM

Anyone who is really concerned about whether or not a particular build of Panther is GM should be comforted by knowing that the final version - which I know everyone is buying - will most certainly be in the legitimately purchased boxes of Mac OS X 10.3 they open. Right?

Right?

v0id7 · Oct 5, 2003, 05:15 PM

Yes.

No really. Yes.

exca1ibur · Oct 5, 2003, 05:16 PM

If you all plan to buy the retail version.... who gives a

what build is final?

You'll HAVE the final no doubt at that point.

quandarry · 05:34 PM

what a fvckin' bunch of losers!

have you people tried aroma therapy?...does wonders!

Zimphire · Oct 5, 2003, 06:48 PM

Horsepoo!!! · Oct 5, 2003, 06:54 PM

OMG, THIS JUST IN:

The boxed 10.3 build is fake.

clebin · Oct 5, 2003, 06:55 PM

I have no picture to post.

But this goes down as one of the worst threads I've ever read.

Checksums aside, I suppose it's too late to ask if there's any INTERESTING or DISCERNABLE differences between your two illegal copies??

Chris

clebin · Oct 5, 2003, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by MR PREDICTABLE ILLITERATE:
Hey Clebin if you're not interested why bother posting man surely you have something better to do???

Because this thread was so spectacularly dull that I couldn't stop myself.

Chris

Macpilot · Oct 5, 2003, 07:35 PM

Who friggin' cares?

salvai · Oct 5, 2003, 08:16 PM

Wow, this thread is filled with useless replies. If you don't care, why don't you refrain from posting such Renaissance Man comments as "Who friggin' cares?".

No wonder MacNN boards have such a **** reputation - you lot bring down the brand for everyone else here.

S.

Boondoggle · Oct 5, 2003, 08:19 PM

Shlt! I just realized that my dual G5 is a fake...

I was thinking lately that it looked alot like an old iMac DV (lime), and sure enough, I looked under my desk and guess what???? NO CHEESE GRATER. And the hair on my calves isn't singed either.

damn ebay....

bd

ambush · Oct 5, 2003, 08:22 PM

I heard 7B85.2 is the build with the debug code stripped. Hmm. Are they going to give us the build full of debug code as the GM *again*?

BTP · Oct 5, 2003, 08:27 PM

You are all fake. The Matrix has you...

Vi0 · Oct 5, 2003, 08:39 PM

7B85 is the GM. Jobs said it himself.

The file comparisons being identical and such are just glitches in the matrix.

jango · Oct 5, 2003, 09:12 PM

ahaha...yes, it's really the matrix!

Vader�s Pinch of Death · Oct 5, 2003, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by salvai:
No wonder MacNN boards have such a **** reputation - you lot bring down the brand for everyone else here.

S.

YA! You want quality, go to SpyMac or MacNet2

DeathMan · Oct 5, 2003, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by Vader�s Pinch of Death:
YA! You want quality, go to SpyMac or MacNet2

My exact sentiment.

PS - You are a bunch of thieves!

BTP · Oct 5, 2003, 09:43 PM

Thievesssssss! They stole it from us, Precious!! Little thieves!!!

diamondsw · Oct 5, 2003, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
THE SIZE DIFFERENCE IS FROM EXTRA FILES PLACED ON EACH DISK TO MAKE IT LOOK DIFFERENT. THE 1337 H4X0R THAT MADE THIS BUILD KNEW IT WOULD THROW US OFF! THROW IT AWAY IT IS USING YOUR COMPUTER FOR SPAM PURPOSES!

yeah...

Fell out of my chair LMAO!

You know, some of the 12 year olds that start these threads can be so annoying...

sideus · Oct 5, 2003, 10:12 PM

Arguing over unreleased software.

i am yujin · Oct 5, 2003, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Vi0:
7B85 is the GM. Jobs said it himself.

The file comparisons being identical and such are just glitches in the matrix.

Where did he say this?

Vader�s Pinch of Death · Oct 5, 2003, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by sideus:
Arguing over unreleased software.

Welcome to MacNN.

Macpilot · Oct 6, 2003, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by sideus:
Arguing over unreleased software.

My point exactly. What is the point?

cSurfr · Oct 6, 2003, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by Macpilot:
My point exactly. What is the point?

The point is post boosting.

+1

Peabo · Oct 6, 2003, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by cSurfr:
The point is post boosting.

+1

good point.

voodoo · Oct 6, 2003, 05:17 AM

+1 ish

RooneyX · Oct 6, 2003, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by BTP:
You are all fake. The Matrix has you...

But which version of the Matrix, is it the GM or just a release candidate or a fake?

Spheric Harlot · Oct 6, 2003, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by i am yujin:
Where did he say this?

Argh.

: hands yujin a gun :

-s*

Cipher13 · Oct 6, 2003, 05:50 AM

Just for those that really do not know better... I have to advise you just to take piracy's word on this.

Really.

Hash · Oct 6, 2003, 06:29 AM

Where is version of Xcode to accompany build 7B85 if it is indeed a GM?

Hash · Oct 6, 2003, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by Boondoggle:
Shlt! I just realized that my dual G5 is a fake...

I was thinking lately that it looked alot like an old iMac DV (lime), and sure enough, I looked under my desk and guess what???? NO CHEESE GRATER. And the hair on my calves isn't singed either.

damn ebay....

bd

I just realised that you were a fake and actually you were just a voice from a broken LP played on an outdated grammophone player, covered by dust, accompanied by an old half-forgotten riff from a 1960s tune..sad and empty..meaningless and dull...just waiting to be ebayed..

Jan Van Boghout · Oct 6, 2003, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Ganesha:
OMG!! They put the debug code back in!

Boondoggle · Oct 6, 2003, 08:20 AM

I just realised that you were a fake and actually you were just a voice from a broken LP played on an outdated grammophone player, covered by dust, accompanied by an old half-forgotten riff from a 1960s tune..sad and empty..meaningless and dull...just waiting to be ebayed

Oh, Hash, I'm really sorry if you took my joke personally. It wasn't directed at you and I must have not made it clear enough that it was just a joke... MY BAD. Please forgive me, I'll never do it again. I'm just thoughtless, meaningless and dull... SORRY.

Moose · Oct 6, 2003, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by Hash:
Where is version of Xcode to accompany build 7B85 if it is indeed a GM?

Many Panther seeds that appeared on ADC did not have corresponding Xcode seeds until several days later--if at all.

7B85 is GM.

piracy · Oct 6, 2003, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Hash:
Where is version of Xcode to accompany build 7B85 if it is indeed a GM?

Uh, what do you mean "where is it"? It exists. Just because the warez kiddiez aren't pirating it yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

gralem · Oct 6, 2003, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by Macpilot:
Who friggin' cares?

OMG--I can't believe you even asked that question! Why stir the pot like that? Just read the posts and laugh. This is WAY better than the new season of SNL.

---gralem

Spheric Harlot · Oct 6, 2003, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Hash:
I just realised that you were a fake and actually you were just a voice from a broken LP played on an outdated grammophone player, covered by dust, accompanied by an old half-forgotten riff from a 1960s tune..sad and empty..meaningless and dull...just waiting to be ebayed..

I hope you realize that that describes something worth its weight in gold to a lot of people...

-s*

ZildjianKX · Oct 6, 2003, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by DeathMan:
My exact sentiment.

PS - You are a bunch of thieves!

Hey, I'm an ADC member and will get it for free anyways... plus I just bought a G5 last week, so I should be getting it almost for free anyways

Hash · Oct 6, 2003, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by piracy:
Uh, what do you mean "where is it"? It exists. Just because the warez kiddiez aren't pirating it yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

OK, but please, target your justified vengeance at real pirate kiddies here, who scream all over the place about their disappointment for getting the wrong warez..

Gul Banana · Oct 6, 2003, 12:15 PM

This thread is a microcosm of humanity, and accurately predicts the problems of our world.

addiecool · 12:49 PM

There is 7cXX series now which will be rolled out as 10.3.1 supposedly. 7b85 is GM after all

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/...06115654.shtml

kennethmac2000 · Oct 6, 2003, 12:20 PM

I've heard rumours that build 7B87 (Client and Server versions) will be appearing all over Carracho and BitTorrent tonight. I've also heard that this build is the real GM and fixes all the bugs in 7B85.