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macmad · Feb 14, 2006, 05:22 PM

just found 10.4.5 in software update....

dpfenninger · 05:35 PM

Installing now...

It's listed on my iMac G5 as "Mac OS X Update (PowerPC)," and here's the description:

The 10.4.5 Update is recommended for all users and includes general operating system fixes, as well as specific fixes for the following applications and technologies:

- iChat video conferencing
- Safari rendering of web pages
- usability of Dashboard and widgets
- viewing of QuickTime streaming media behind a firewall
- printing to some Epson printer models
- iDisk and Portable Home Directory syncing
- time zone and daylight savings for 2006 and 2007
- VPN connections to Cisco servers when using NAT
- compatibility with third party applications and devices
- previous standalone security updates

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n303179.

For detailed information on Security Updates, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798.

Build is 8H14.

I Bent My Wookiee · Feb 14, 2006, 05:31 PM

Please for the love of Zombie Jesus no "Downloading now" "Installing Now" or "Everything works 100% in the last 2 min I have used it" posts.

Weyland-Yutani · Feb 14, 2006, 05:33 PM

meh mostly just intel mac fixes. very underwhelming.

thx for the heads-up though

cheers

W-Y

dpfenninger · Feb 14, 2006, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee

Please for the love of Zombie Jesus no "Downloading now" "Installing Now" or "Everything works 100% in the last 2 min I have used it" posts.

Excuuuuuse me, Mr. Forum Police.

macmad · Feb 14, 2006, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

meh mostly just intel mac fixes. very underwhelming.

Agreed

I Bent My Wookiee · Feb 14, 2006, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by dpfenninger

Excuuuuuse me, Mr. Forum Police.

I got a higher Post count so shut your pie hole.

dpfenninger · Feb 14, 2006, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee

I got a higher Post count so shut your pie hole.

Oh ok, I must have missed the memo that said the "higher post count" meant you were allowed to tell people what to say.
My apologies...

baw · Feb 14, 2006, 05:41 PM

10.4.4 gets cracked and a few hours later this is released. Coincidence?

Krypton · Feb 14, 2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by baw

10.4.4 gets cracked and a few hours later this is released. Coincidence?

Yes; Apple have better things to do than worry about somebody almost getting OS X to install on generic PCs.

fisherKing · Feb 14, 2006, 05:48 PM

hey, but no ppc fixes would also pretty-much mean no new problems;
what more could one want from an update...?

(and yes...."installing now"....)

I Bent My Wookiee · Feb 14, 2006, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by baw

10.4.4 gets cracked and a few hours later this is released. Coincidence?

All Apple needs to figure out how they cracked it and get around it is a matter of hours?

Damn they are good.

fisherKing · Feb 14, 2006, 06:04 PM

well, the "4" in "10.4.4" has been fixed, and now correctly reads "10.4.5".

15mb DL? small potatoes...

what else is there to say, but:

+1 !

Weyland-Yutani · Feb 14, 2006, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by fisherKing

hey, but no ppc fixes would also pretty-much mean no new problems;
what more could one want from an update...?

(and yes...."installing now"....)

hence no need for the update if you're running osx on ppc

cheers

W-Y

fisherKing · Feb 14, 2006, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

hence no need for the update if you're running osx on ppc

cheers

W-Y

but then i wouldn't have the "latest, greatest"...

(as a mac tech, i install everything right away, so i can encourage (or discourage) clients to do the same)

and hence,

+1

I Bent My Wookiee · Feb 14, 2006, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by fisherKing

well, the "4" in "10.4.4" has been fixed, and now correctly reads "10.4.5".

15mb DL? small potatoes...

Mine was only 6

tomasboudr · Feb 14, 2006, 06:37 PM

mine was only 6 as well

fisherKing · Feb 14, 2006, 06:42 PM

...and i just downloaded the combo from the apple site:
125megs.

that's A LOT of language files... !

His Dudeness · Feb 14, 2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee

Please for the love of Zombie Jesus no "Downloading now" "Installing Now" or "Everything works 100% in the last 2 min I have used it" posts.

Everything seems Snappier now!

I Bent My Wookiee · Feb 14, 2006, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by His Dudeness

Everything seems Snappier now!

Bastard

But how much snappier? Around 6 - 10.5% ?

djc6 · Feb 14, 2006, 06:55 PM

So, I updated my 700Mhz eMac, and now it won't boot.

I closed all applications before applying the 10.4.5 update, and I used the combo installer out of superstition. I get the grey apple on the screen, but not the swirling progress meter below it. I also can't use cmd-V to boot in verbose mode. Good times!!! Any suggestions?

Eug Wanker · Feb 14, 2006, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee

Bastard

But how much snappier? Around 6 - 10.5% ?

Mine's turned up all the way to 11.

Originally Posted by djc6

So, I updated my 700Mhz eMac, and now it won't boot.

I closed all applications before applying the 10.4.5 update, and I used the combo installer out of superstition. I get the grey apple on the screen, but not the swirling progress meter below it. I also can't use cmd-V to boot in verbose mode. Good times!!! Any suggestions?

Heh. If you had posted 5 minutes ago, I wouldn't have installed it on my iBook like I just did, considering I'm stuck in a hotel room at the moment. Luckily for me, it's working fine.

Have you tried a reboot?

cla · Feb 14, 2006, 07:01 PM

Dragging a widget out of the widget bar while the desktop picture is changing (automatically, for example) no longer stops the animation on an Intel-based Mac.

FINALLY!! I'VE BEEN WAITING AGES FOR THIS!!!

djc6 · Feb 14, 2006, 07:01 PM

Hmm... I got into open firmware, did "setenv boot-args -v" and then "mac-boot", still no verbosity. Just the grey apple, which doesn't tell me much.

JKT · Feb 14, 2006, 07:07 PM

If this fixes the bloody annoying iChat "yourownusername did not respond" issue when trying to start a video/audio conference then this will be far more than just "intel" fixes...

iomatic · Feb 14, 2006, 07:10 PM

Yeah, wth is up with these undewhelming updates? e.g., AOL mail? Who THE FIZZNITCH uses AOL? If you raise your hand, please, just go away. Widget update, yeah. What. The. iPod-smoking.

How about getting Google services (gmail, google-chat (ugh)) et al.) to actually work in Safari? De-beachball Safari? Fer CRIMONY'S SAKE.

djc6 · Feb 14, 2006, 07:15 PM

Man, I feel like a tool but I should post this:

I'm impatient, eMac is slow... for some reason after the update it took like literally 10 minutes to boot up. Boots OK now.

Maflynn · Feb 14, 2006, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee

Please for the love of Zombie Jesus no "Downloading now" "Installing Now" or "Everything works 100% in the last 2 min I have used it" posts.

Downloading as I type, I'll put in a "installing now" post shortly and hopefully following that a "Everything works 100% "

I Bent My Wookiee · Feb 14, 2006, 07:28 PM

Fan issue with Dual G5's is still there.

pat++ · Feb 14, 2006, 07:38 PM

Here is what I noticed so far :

- They changed the font used to display Mac OS X during startup
- They changed font smoothing : it seems to be more blurry for me, or a least different
- I was asked to enter my password after reboot... had to go to System Preferences to re-enable auto login

fisherKing · Feb 14, 2006, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by djc6

Man, I feel like a tool but I should post this:

I'm impatient, eMac is slow... for some reason after the update it took like literally 10 minutes to boot up. Boots OK now.

it's usually a slow boot right after an update.
if it's fine now...all is well.

midwinter · Feb 14, 2006, 07:45 PM

Not downloading now.

Douglashh · Feb 14, 2006, 08:01 PM

Downloaded Combo update. Repaired permissions, ran TTP and unplugged my Firewire HD. Ran Combo updater, rebooted, repaired permissions, deleted all but English files and rebooted again.

Everything operating up to specs as far as I can tell at this point. Boot times seems a little long.

Doug

I Bent My Wookiee · Feb 14, 2006, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by pat++

Here is what I noticed so far :

- They changed the font used to display Mac OS X during startup
- They changed font smoothing : it seems to be more blurry for me, or a least different
- I was asked to enter my password after reboot... had to go to System Preferences to re-enable auto login

Strange, none of that is mentioned in the feature changes.

Hachimachi · Feb 14, 2006, 08:09 PM

First, I'm having problems with software update- it's not always expanding packages properly (recently), but then when I finally downloaded it from elsewhere, the dock didn't seem to be working properly, and neither is expose- the app switching is somewhat quirky. Any thoughts?

rickey939 · Feb 14, 2006, 08:13 PM

Everything is working just fine here, no issues.

They changed the font used to display Mac OS X during startup, eh? I don't see a bit of difference.

iomatic · Feb 14, 2006, 08:19 PM

This one sounds like I'll stay away.

not downloading...

cowboybop · Feb 14, 2006, 09:06 PM

Everything seems to be working ok, except for Transparent Dock. But I suppose I can live with that.

rparke1 · Feb 14, 2006, 09:11 PM

^ im using invisadock, or something simular to that name, anyways, it works for me

rickey939 · Feb 14, 2006, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by cowboybop

Everything seems to be working ok, except for Transparent Dock. But I suppose I can live with that.

The update will be out shortly...as always.

betasp · 10:47 PM

Well, it broke my internet for a few minutes. It forced a nvram-reset, pram reset and disk permission fix to get it back up. Besides that, all is well.

production_coordinator · Feb 14, 2006, 10:30 PM

EEverything seeeems to bee working heeree. Someething seeeems to bee wrong with my ee keey... but I'm suree that's normal.

rickey939 · Feb 14, 2006, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by production_coordinator

EEverything seeeems to bee working heeree. Someething seeeems to bee wrong with my ee keey... but I'm suree that's normal.

Duct Tape v1.2 (Universal) was updated in this build.

msuper69 · Feb 14, 2006, 11:46 PM

When will 10.4.6 be available?

(roll eyes pre-emptively inserted for your convenience)

JustenBias · Feb 15, 2006, 12:06 AM

So, my Power Mac Quad G5 is fscked. And even fsck won't fix it.

After restarting, I attempted to log in. Seemed fine. No shaking-its-head-no login box. Blue screen. All righty...

But the blue screen never went away.

It is, indeed, the blue screen of death! Ahhhh!

So, I boot into safe mode, like someone on the news article comments suggested (hold down shift before chime).

After logging in under my usual username and password, I get blue screen then black screen with:

Darwin/BSD (whatever.local) (console)
login:

I'm thinking... Okey. So I can go back to command-line world, right? What'd I buy a Mac for, anyway?

So, like the guy in the comments on the news article said Apple Support suggested, I old-school style move StartupItems...

su
mv /Library/StartupItems /Library/StartupItemsOld

(Oddly, su mv didn't work... I got a weird "cannot executive binary file". Su'ing and then mv'ing did okey, though.)

Typing a few exit commands and restarting from the login window... Tried logging in again... And, once again, a brief glimpse of cli/Darwin black screen, and now I'm back to the blue screen of death.

Ugg.

I thought I bought a Mac to not have to deal with blue screens of death and poor software quality assurance testing and the like.

Help.

Please.

I'm desperate. Really. It's Valentine's Day. And I'm all alone. Even my G5 doesn't love me anymore!

justen

Eug Wanker · Feb 15, 2006, 12:30 AM

I don't notice any difference in font smoothing.

alphasubzero949 · Feb 15, 2006, 01:07 AM

10.4.5 has changed my life. Everything is so snappy wherever I go, birds are singing, flowers are blooming, and I no longer have a hairy buttcrack. Thank you Apple!

symonsl · Feb 15, 2006, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee

Please for the love of Zombie Jesus no "Downloading now" "Installing Now" or "Everything works 100% in the last 2 min I have used it" posts.

I haven't installed it yet, but everything works 100%.

jeff25624 · Feb 15, 2006, 01:58 AM

Actually, I think this update may have made me a very happy person. Snce I got back to school, the internet was absolutely killing me. It was dropping out, downloads couldnt finish, it was horrible. Yet aftetr I installed this update, everything has been better than usual. Granted, its one night of testing, but If ths update fixed my problem I'll kiss Steve Jobs.

BigBadWolf · Feb 15, 2006, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by JustenBias

After logging in under my usual username and password, I get blue screen then black screen with:

Darwin/BSD (whatever.local) (console)
login:

I'm thinking... Okey. So I can go back to command-line world, right? What'd I buy a Mac for, anyway?

So, like the guy in the comments on the news article said Apple Support suggested, I old-school style move StartupItems...

su
mv /Library/StartupItems /Library/StartupItemsOld

(Oddly, su mv didn't work... I got a weird "cannot executive binary file". Su'ing and then mv'ing did okey, though.)

Typing a few exit commands and restarting from the login window... Tried logging in again... And, once again, a brief glimpse of cli/Darwin black screen, and now I'm back to the blue screen of death.

The same thing happened to me on my Powerbook. I just restarted it and it logged in fine.