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So…the front fell off?

My first thought though was “Bluesmobile” at the end of the film….

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Looks to me like the front forks were still on the wheel. With the steering bars separate on the ground.

I think the steering column broke in two.
     
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That’s not how that’s supposed to work. That’s not how ANY building is supposed to work.

I’m really curious what the story behind this is.

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Where I found it the query was “three story shed?”
     
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There was no cross support. From diagonals, or unbroken sheeting. The floor we're at, which distorted the most, only had 3 verticals on the narrow end. Minimal fill-in around the verticals. The 2 floors above at least have some fill-in around the windows. Wind from the right caused the failure, after they sheeted over the long sides.

I think you could get away with this design, but you'd have to hide some serious steel framing in the narrow walls. To stiffen it up.

note: it's a 4-storey. Appears to be a car parked underneath.
     
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Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
note: it's a 4-storey. Appears to be a car parked underneath.
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Yeah, and the part below the “folded” floor seems to be well hidden from wind. I see way too much dependence on OSB without using it in a way that it could support stuff.

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Having just finished my own (single-story) shed, that’s just brutal construction by some idiot who had no idea what they were doing. Obviously.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Shortcut View Post
Having just finished my own (single-story) shed, that’s just brutal construction by some idiot who had no idea what they were doing. Obviously.
Very obviously, and very amusingly. I wonder if they had a permit? Because if they did, they’re going to have to use new materials. And if they didn’t, they’re going to be fined, have to buy a new permit, AND use all new materials.

This seems like an example of stupidity being clearly painful. I hope it works as a lesson, but I’m an idealist…

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Might be intentional.
     
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Is he mad that nobody told him the car was there?
     
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I honestly don’t understand any of it.

Okay, car's not there, so you go out into traffic instead.


Also, tearing off a mirror with your pit’s gotta hurt.
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I’m going to assume there’s no death involved because it’s far more entertaining that way.
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That doesn’t look real.
     
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No, it really doesn’t look real. But it does look hysterical.

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I want to believe.
     
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Me too. The totally blasé “ride operator,” in particular, gives it a little more credence.

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It’s fake
     
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Fun wrecker.
     
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We can tell from the pixels.
     
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Pity the cats-on-roofs don't make the same mistake. Especially during yowling season.
     
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At the end, they’re each giving the other a “this was your fault, jerk” look. Of course the yellow cat managed to pick up some seaweed/gunk at the same time, so I think the dark cat won on points.

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Excellent dismount. Sub-par roof surfing. Unimpressive rump landing.

He's actually lucky. If he'd rotated a little more, it would have become a flat-back landing. And he'd be awhile getting up.
     
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That’s not so much a “woops” as it is a normal part of gymnastics training.
     
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Jul 27, 2022, 04:43 PM
 
Her fingertips brushed the bar. Missed it by that much. How much training it must take to make something so difficult look easy.
     
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Originally Posted by Thorzdad View Post
That’s not so much a “woops” as it is a normal part of gymnastics training.
Sort of like how possession is 9/10ths of the law, intent is 9/10ths of the woops.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Sort of like how possession is 9/10ths of the law, intent is 9/10ths of the woops.
I dunno. There’s “intent=you’re doing it wrong” or “intent=hey y’all, watch this!” This was more a case of “intent=accepted part of learning the craft”. I’m not sure the latter should be included in our highly-entertaining series of human foible.
     
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Yes, “part of training.” But more than that. This type of activity requires an amazing amount of concentration, and tons of practice so the person knows exactly where they - and all of their parts - are in space, and in relation to the bar. Instead of “just” being an intense physical challenge, it’s an enormously intense focus challenge, on top of an intense physical challenge.

This is exactly why Simone Biles withdrew from the Tokyo games. She later explained that she found herself “lost” during a routine, and that she nearly fell - badly - because of it. In an ESPN article, she was quoted as saying
You have to be there 100%," Biles told reporters after the meet. "If not, you get hurt. Today has been really stressful. I was shaking. I couldn't nap. I have never felt like this going into a competition, and I tried to go out and have fun. But once I came out, I was like, 'No. My mental is not there.'
So that’s an impressive oops, but my biggest thought is “that’s gotta be a really hard belly flop landing.” I hope she was able to get back into the groove later.

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Jul 28, 2022, 05:20 PM
 
I hope there was a nice squishy mat underneath the rig.
     
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There’s a huge one. A good foot or more thick.
     
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Definitely expensive. I wonder if they'll fix it in place, or swap the wing. As it's usually a fuel tank, and would need substantial inspection for leaks and stress fractures all the way up to the main body.

Either way, that plane is grounded for a few weeks. At least.
     
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Yeah… my knee-jerk reaction is that whole wing is toast. Too much risk of undetectable damage.
     
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That oops happened in your backyard, subego. Quatar Airways Cargo 777 at O’Hare, two days ago. It’s official status is “Parked.”
     
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Yup! Stumbled across it in the Chicago subreddit rather than the normal Woops channels.
     
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OK, LOTS of stuff to rag on.

The guy with the “wig-wag” flashlights? Either he wigged out, or was completely incompetent - if he was present at all. Update: It looks like this was on a taxiway or a connector between taxiways. If so, it would be all on the pilot here.

Next, the 777’s wing is complex, built of extremely carefully designed aluminum (and maybe titanium) components. At least this isn’t the “new” wing, which is much longer than the current wing, and pretty much all composites. You can actually replace aluminum wing parts, even down to the ribs and stringers, but not that composite stuff because it’s not riveted together, it’s bonded…

Yes, there’s fuel storage in the wing, so that’s going to need to be fully evaluated. But more importantly, it looks like the wing itself was flexed UP from the tip end toward the wing root. Modern aircraft wings DO flex in that manner, but only while bearing loads throughout. And wings are definitely NOT built to take impact loads fore-to-aft at all. The whole wing could need to be replaced, at the very least.

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I guess it’s essentially a math problem. How much will it cost in time and money to pull the entire wing apart, fully inspect each piece, and replace about a quarter of it versus buying a new one?

I tend towards risk averse, so once the repair starts to approach, I dunno, 3/4 the cost of replacement, I start saying we eat the extra expense.
     
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This is one of the few times I think having Boeing move to Chicago is “good.” They have the majority of their corporate management there, and should be able to get their 777 experts on hand to investigate the damage pretty quickly. This is going to be a “big deal” for O’Hare, Qatar Airlines, Boeing, and a lot of others. Lessons learned on this event will ripple through the whole aviation industry for years to come.

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My impression is Boeing moved to Chicago to get away from their experts (engineers). So the management-types and accountants could count the profits as they came in, and not be bothered about pesky details. Last I heard, Boeing doesn't have a single engineer in upper management.

Especially to avoid pestering about details that cost money to address, like obscure autopilot features dependent upon a single sensor. That might crash a plane under hypothetical circumstances. They seem to have cut corners on the Starliner capsule too. And the SLS main stage. And that new Air Force air tanker. The new Air Force Ones are delayed too. I guess they saved a lot of money for gleeful counting, until the problems went political.

If this accident happened due to pilot error, I'm not sure how it would rock the industry. The pilot missed (or rather, didn't miss) a light post while taxiing. An expensive error, but not hard to understand or avoid. "Keep your eyes on the road" and meet your sleep-hours requirements.
     
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That's not boston, but I'm going to call that an honorary Storrowing.
     
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this is not a user-generated Oops.

     
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One usually buys a car to devour the road. I'd call payback, but this isn't even a proper road. I think their parking spot ate the car while they were shopping.
     
 
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