[besson3c]

1) What is the difference between "bop" and "hard bop"? Name some famous musicians associated with each genre?

2) Name 5 well-known compositions of Duke Ellington

3) Which three areas of jazz was Miles Davis known as providing major contributions to?

4) Name 5 players of each major instrument that made significant contributions to jazz (according to the common consensus among jazz historians) between the 1940s and 1950s?

5) Who was Porkpie Hat? Yardbird? Fats? Cannonball? The Prez? Diz? (bonus points if you identify their real names)

6) What is "Cool" jazz, and what were the characteristics of this genre? Who were some of the major performers within this genre?

7) Which two musicians were credited as having "invented" bebop?

8) Name some significant fusion artists/bands

9) Why was jazz born in New Orleans?

10) Name some big bands that were well known beyond the Swing era?

11) Name some tunes based on rhythm changes? Blues changes?

12) Name 10 well-known jazz standards

[turtle777]

I fail at jazz

-t

[quesera]

1) Is bop the same as be-bop? Like Dizzy Gillespie?
Hard bop - Freddie Hubbard?

[quesera]

2) Satin Doll
Take the A Train
Black and Tan Fantasy
Cottontail
Prelude to a Kiss

3) Modal
Fusion
Arrgh!

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by quesera 

1) Is bop the same as be-bop? Like Dizzy Gillespie?
Hard bop - Freddie Hubbard?

Yes and yes, although Freddie was known primarily as more of a post-bop guy, coming in on the tail end of hard bop.

[scottiB]

Take a passing stab...

1.

2. "Take the 'A' Train" - off the top of my head

3. Bop and Fusion are the only two I know

4. Drums: Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Elvin Hayes, Cozy Cole, Joe Morello

5. Yardbird = Charlie Parker; Cannonball Adderly; Dizzie Gillespie

6. That's not Jazz.--whoops I thought it said "Smooth" - Brubeck

7. Gillespie and Miles--I think.

8. Mahavishnu / Weather Report / Spyro Gyra

9. misread this question--Because that's where Armstrong was from.

10. There's a Dorsey band still kickin' around I think.

11. Rhythm: "Take 5"

12. Pennsylvania 6-5000; Yardbird Suite; Night in Tunisia; Satin Doll; Moonlight Serenade; Night and Day; Stardust; Sentimental Journey; In the Mood; Sing! Sing! Sing!

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by quesera 

2) Satin Doll
Take the A Train
Black and Tan Fantasy
Cottontail
Prelude to a Kiss

3) Modal
Fusion
Arrgh!

A Train was a Billie Strayhorn composition performed by the Ellington band. Partial marks on that one


Modal, Fusion, and Bebop

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by scottiB 

Take a passing stab...

2. "Take the 'A' Train" - off the top of my head

Partially correct... he didn't compose this tune.

3. Bop and Fusion are the only two I know

Modal (e.g. the Kind of Blue album)

6. That's not Jazz.

I'm not talking about Smooth Jazz, I'm talking about Cool, very much an important part of jazz. If you've heard any Chet Baker, Gerry Mulligan, or Art Pepper, or the Birth of the Cool album you've heard Cool.

9. Dixieland

I was thinking more of cultural, American history type reasons...

10. There's a Dorsey band still kickin' around I think.

There are many actually...

11. Rhythm: "Take 5"

Take 5 is not based on I Got Rhythm Changes

12. Pennsylvania 6-5000; Yardbird Suite; Night in Tunisia; Satin Doll; Moonlight Serenade; Night and Day; Stardust; Sentimental Journey; In the Mood; Sing! Sing! Sing!

Some of these (e.g. Pennsylvania, Sentimental, Mood, Sing Sing) are more Swing era big band hits, not really jazz standards. Jazz standards are malleable tunes widely recorded in a variety of settings, such as All the Things You Are, There Will Never Be Another You, Stella by Starlight, On Green Dolphin Street, Confirmation, Autumn Leaves, etc.


Very good, overall, thank you! It is very interesting to me to see what bits of information people pick up here and there.

[Spliffdaddy]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

1) What is the difference between "bop" and "hard bop"? Name some famous musicians associated with each genre?

Hard bop = 1950's A bluesy sort of jazz, I think. Miles Davis comes immediately to mind.

Bop = "Bebop" pre-1950's jazz - essentially 'swing' but with altered chords / chord substitutions. Dizzy Gillespie

2) Name 5 well-known compositions of Duke Ellington

1) Tuxedo Junction (not sure this was an original Duke Ellington tune, but he played it)

OK, it's obvious I'm no expert

3) Which three areas of jazz was Miles Davis known as providing major contributions to?

Probably the creator of 'hard bop' and, um...um

4) Name 5 players of each major instrument that made significant contributions to jazz (according to the common consensus among jazz historians) between the 1940s and 1950s?

could you repeat the question please?

5) Who was Porkpie Hat? Yardbird? Fats? Cannonball? The Prez? Diz? (bonus points if you identify their real names)

"Porkpie hat" is what Robert Oppenheimer wore. heh.
"Yardbird" is Charlie Parker
"Fats" is Fats Waller, probably. Fats Domino, less likely
"Cannonball" - I haven't a clue
"The Prez" is Lester Young
"Diz" I'll guess is Dizzy Gillespie

Their real names? Except for the 2 "Fats" and "Dizzy" I think I posted their real names.

6) What is "Cool" jazz, and what were the characteristics of this genre? Who were some of the major performers within this genre?

Cool jazz = I'd know it if I heard it. major performers? Lester Young (saxophone)

7) Which two musicians were credited as having "invented" bebop?

ACK. I should know this one. I'll guess Charlie Parker and that Powell guy

8) Name some significant fusion artists/bands

Miles Davis. Charles Lloyd. Herbie Hancock, maybe...his music has the funk I so admire.

9) Why was jazz born in New Orleans?

For such a simple question, I have no answer.

10) Name some big bands that were well known beyond the Swing era?

"beyond the swing era"? Sorry, I don't do swing.

11) Name some tunes based on rhythm changes? Blues changes?

gonna have to plead ignorance on this one.

12) Name 10 well-known jazz standards

Bebop, Hard Bop, Cool, Swing, Fusion/Funk, um... and the traditional dixieland stuff. Are you sure there are 10?


Take that! Ya displaced Canuck. And you thought this hillbilly only knew "dueling banjoes".

[scottiB]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Partially correct... he didn't compose this tune.




Modal (e.g. the Kind of Blue album)



I'm not talking about Smooth Jazz, I'm talking about Cool, very much an important part of jazz. If you've heard any Chet Baker, Gerry Mulligan, or Art Pepper, or the Birth of the Cool album you've heard Cool.



I was thinking more of cultural, American history type reasons...



There are many actually...



Take 5 is not based on I Got Rhythm Changes



Some of these (e.g. Pennsylvania, Sentimental, Mood, Sing Sing) are more Swing era big band hits, not really jazz standards. Jazz standards are malleable tunes widely recorded in a variety of settings, such as All the Things You Are, There Will Never Be Another You, Stella by Starlight, On Green Dolphin Street, Confirmation, Autumn Leaves, etc.


Very good, overall, thank you! It is very interesting to me to see what bits of information people pick up here and there.

I've edited my responses since you've posted. I did mis-read a few, and I apologize.

My definition of jazz standards is more of a player's one. I drummed in a college big band and cocktail acts twenty years ago. These were all jazz standards in my fake book--and the first that popped in my head.

Your right on Take 5--it's 5/4--again misread the question in my old age.

[Spliffdaddy]

Jazz "standards" as in "songs" ??

That was a trick question, besson3c

[BRussell]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

1) What is the difference between "bop" and "hard bop"? Name some famous musicians associated with each genre?

Bop is bebop, the original modern jazz of Charlie Parker et al. Hard bop is a simpler, rockin'-er, later type of jazz.

2) Name 5 well-known compositions of Duke Ellington

Sentimental mood, caravan, mood indigo, satin doll

3) Which three areas of jazz was Miles Davis known as providing major contributions to?

Bebop, cool, fusion.

4) Name 5 players of each major instrument that made significant contributions to jazz (according to the common consensus among jazz historians) between the 1940s and 1950s?

Ugh.

5) Who was Porkpie Hat? Yardbird? Fats? Cannonball? The Prez? Diz? (bonus points if you identify their real names)

Don't know porkpie hat. Parker, don't know Fats (can't be Domino?), Adderly, coleman hawkins, dizzie gillespie.

6) What is "Cool" jazz, and what were the characteristics of this genre? Who were some of the major performers within this genre?

um, it was cool? laid back? slower tempos? miles davis, stan getz, bill evans.

7) Which two musicians were credited as having "invented" bebop?

charlie parker & Dizzie gillespie?

8) Name some significant fusion artists/bands

No. OK, John McLaughlin. Miles Davis. Not my thing though.

9) Why was jazz born in New Orleans?

don't know. because Louis Armstrong was born there?

10) Name some big bands that were well known beyond the Swing era?

Akioshi. Woody Herman. ???

11) Name some tunes based on rhythm changes? Blues changes?

I could name 10 rhythm changes and hundreds of blues. (but I don't feel like it right now. )

12) Name 10 well-known jazz standards

I could name 200 if you give me an hour. but I don't feel like it.

[Spliffdaddy]

dude. You're supposed to always be right.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy 

Hard bop = 1950's A bluesy sort of jazz, I think. Miles Davis comes immediately to mind.

If you had the "Kind of Blue" album in mind, this was actually what is known as "Modal" jazz, where improvisations take place over just a couple of chords in a sort of impressionistic way. Hard Bop is definitely very blues and soul oriented, but Miles wasn't really a part of this crowd so much. Players like Clifford Brown and Horace Silver were more commonly associated as Hard Boppers.

Bop = "Bebop" pre-1950's jazz - essentially 'swing' but with altered chords / chord substitutions. Dizzy Gillespie

You got your era and artist right, but I wouldn't compare it to swing at all. Bebop was not at all a dancing music (this is partially why it was never nearly as popular as the music coming out of the swing era). Listen to early Dizzy Gillespie, Charlie Parker, Fats Navarro, or Roy Eldridge for early examples of bebop, which certainly bore very little resemblance to something like In the Mood or A String of Pearls.

could you repeat the question please?

Name some famous jazz musicians from the 1940s-1950s and break them down by instrument

"Fats" is Fats Waller, probably. Fats Domino, less likely

Several different Fatsy people, including Fats Navarro too...

ACK. I should know this one. I'll guess Charlie Parker and that Powell guy

Bud Powell, Richie Powell, Colin Powell? One answer would be correct, although there is another player that is more often put in the same sentence with Bird in this context.

Bebop, Hard Bop, Cool, Swing, Fusion/Funk, um... and the traditional dixieland stuff. Are you sure there are 10?


Take that! Ya displaced Canuck. And you thought this hillbilly only knew "dueling banjoes".

Those are sub-genres of jazz, I was asking for Jazz Standards, which are songs.

This hillbilly is always surprising me, what else ya got?

[besson3c]

BRussell did very well

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy 

Take that! Ya displaced Canuck. And you thought this hillbilly only knew "dueling banjoes".

You look like a banjo...


.... Damn, wish I thought to come up with this snappy line in my last post to Spliffler.

[Spliffdaddy]

The questions are too difficult.

You're making me look like I don't know anything about jazz.

When I make a Pink Floyd trivia thread - you're required to participate. So we'll be even.

[besson3c]

Do you like me?

[Kevin]

[Spliffdaddy]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Do you like me?

Of course I do, besson3c.

Now get over to my Pink Floyd trivia thread and make yourself useful.

[SpaceMonkey]

1. Kenny G
2. Kenny G
3. Kenny G
4. Kenny G
5. Kenny G
6. Kenny G
7. Kenny G
8. Kenny G
9. ...hmm...not sure.
10. Kenny G
11. Kenny G
12. Kenny G

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy 

Of course I do, besson3c.

Now get over to my Pink Floyd trivia thread and make yourself useful.

The only thing I know about Pink Floyd is about the getting high and listening to Dark Side of the Moon while watching the Wizard of Oz thing.

Why are they called Pink Floyd?

[marden]

Nice thread.

Jazz = America.

America = Good.

[BigBadWolf]

Since no one else has answered #4, I will. From the 40s and 50s

Trumpet - Diz, Miles, Clifford Brown, Fats Navarro, Kenny Dorham, Chet Baker

Sax - Bird, Sonny Rollins, Sonny Stitt, Coltrane, Cannonball Adderly, Dexter Gordon

Bone - JJ Johnson, Curtis Fuller

Piano - Monk, Bud Powell, Art Tatum, Tadd Dameron, Red Garland

Drums - Max Roach, Phily Joe Jones, Kenny Clarke, Art Blakey, Jimmy Cobb

Bass - Ray Brown, Charles Mingus, Percy Heath, Paul Chambers,

[BRussell]

So besson, now you should do a post with all the correct answers.

[besson3c]

Answers, as requested:

Originally Posted by besson3c 

1) What is the difference between "bop" and "hard bop"? Name some famous musicians associated with each genre?

Hard bop came later on in the 50s and was more blues, funky, and soul influenced. It is sometimes lumped in with the "Soul jazz" category, I believe

Bop: Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Bud Powell, Fats Navarro, Roy Eldridge, Miles Davis

Hard Bop: Clifford Brown, Sonny Rollins, Horace Silver, Adderly brothers, Lee Morgan, Art Blakey

2) Name 5 well-known compositions of Duke Ellington

In A Sentimental Mood
Satin Doll
Perdido
Caravan
Rocking n' Rhythm

3) Which three areas of jazz was Miles Davis known as providing major contributions to?

Bop, Modal, Fusion

4) Name 5 players of each major instrument that made significant contributions to jazz (according to the common consensus among jazz historians) between the 1940s and 1950s?

Sax: Sonny Rollins, Coltrane, Dexter Gordon, Joe Henderson, Cannonball Adderly, Harold Land, Hank Mobley
Trombone: J.J. Johnson, Curtis Fuller, Frank Rosolino, Slide Hampton,
Trumpet: Clifford Brown, Lee Morgan, Nat Adderly, Freddie Hubbard, Blue Mitchell, Kenny Dorham
Piano: Horace Silver, McCoy Tyner, Richie Powell, Wynton Kelly, Oscar Peterson, Bobby Timmons
Drums: Art Blakey, Max Roach, Philly Joe Jones, Roy Haynes, Tony Williams
Bass: Ray Brown, Ron Carter, Milt Hinton, George Morrow, Percy Heath
Guitar: Wes Montgomery

5) Who was Porkpie Hat? Yardbird? Fats? Cannonball? The Prez? Diz? (bonus points if you identify their real names)

Lester Young, Charlie Parker, several Fat people, Julian Adderly, Lester Young, Dizzy Gillespie

6) What is "Cool" jazz, and what were the characteristics of this genre? Who were some of the major performers within this genre?

Less chord changes than bebop, usually relaxed tempos, larger groups (nonets are common), took place on the west coast

7) Which two musicians were credited as having "invented" bebop?

Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie

8) Name some significant fusion artists/bands

Mahnuvishnu, Don Ellis, John Scofield, Pat Metheny, Weather Report, Spyro Gyro, Brecker Brothers, Yellowjackets

9) Why was jazz born in New Orleans?

Very diverse culture at the time in a seaport city. Jazz was known as the "devil's music", but New Orleans had a sort of seedy underbelly at the time that provided an environment for many early brass bands that mutated away from Sousa et all into early jazz.

10) Name some big bands that were well known beyond the Swing era?

Stan Kenton, Count Basie, Thad Jones, Maynard Ferguson, Sinatra,

11) Name some tunes based on rhythm changes? Blues changes?

Rhythm:

I Got Rhythm
The Flinstones
Oleo
several Bird tunes
Rhythm changes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Blues:

Sandu
Tenor Madness
Blue Seven
All Blues
Mr. P.C.
countless others

12) Name 10 well-known jazz standards

Stella By Starlight
On Green Dolphin Street
All the Things You Are
Just Friends
There will Never Be Another You
Confirmation
Have You Met Miss Jones?
Take the A Train
I Can't Get Started
I Love You
Love For Sale
Invitation
Stompin' At the Savoy
The Nearness of You
Stardust
Skylark
All of You
Night and Day
The Song is You
Embraceable You
Autumn Leaves
Satin Doll
Do Nothing Until you Hear From Me
Mood Indigo

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by marden 

Nice thread.

Jazz = America.

America = Good.

*grunt* what he said!

[quesera]

On a semi-related note, I just returned from a performance of the Nutcracker with my seven year old daughter. The auditorium was nothing special, but it was there where some 15 odd years ago I saw on different occasions, Sonny Rollins and Herbie Hancock. It reminded me of all the great players but not always great shows I've seen, Dizzy Gillespie in Friedrichshafen, The Harper Brothers at Yoshis, a freaky Miles Davis at the Stanford Amphitheatre, and a quiet Chet baker tribute immediately following his death at a place called the SeeKuh. We don't get out much that way anymore.

[JazzCatDRP]

Here we go...my kind of thread. My apologies to any already answered...I didn't really read the thread.

1) What is the difference between "bop" and "hard bop"? Name some famous musicians associated with each genre?

Hmmm...never really tried to explain the difference in words. Bebop was the first real jazz music not very accessible to the public...meaning one had to really be a "jazz lover" as opposed to a "music lover" to appreciate bebop. This was made big by cats like Charlie and Dizzy. Hard bop came next, which was more less "out there" and more accessible to the general public...here we're talking cats like Coltrane and Miles.


2) Name 5 well-known compositions of Duke Ellington

Piece of cake. Caravan, Take the A Train, Mood Indigo, Satin Doll, I let a song go out of my heart

3) Which three areas of jazz was Miles Davis known as providing major contributions to?

Not completely sure what exactly you're referring to...his major contribution was to modal improvisation. He did a little work with Charlie Parker in the bebop era, but wasn't exactly groundbreaking in that genre. Certainly in the cool jazz genre, Miles was king.

4) Name 5 players of each major instrument that made significant contributions to jazz (according to the common consensus among jazz historians) between the 1940s and 1950s?

Trumpet: Dizzy Gillespie, Clifford Brown, Miles Davis, Chet Baker, Kenny Dorham (not so much on him, but I can't think of a better fifth.)
Sax: Charlie Parker, Cannonball Adderly, Sonny Rollins, Dexter Gordon...can't think of a good fifth
Others: Thelonious Monk, Max Roach, Charles Mingus

5) Who was Porkpie Hat? Lester Young. Yardbird? Charlie Parker. Fats? Fats Waller. Cannonball? Cannonball Adderly. The Prez? Dunno. Diz? Dizzy Gillespie (real name: John Birks Gillespie)(bonus points if you identify their real names)

6) What is "Cool" jazz, and what were the characteristics of this genre? Who were some of the major performers within this genre?

It's basically the harmony of bebop with a mellow, laid back style. Miles Davis reigns king here.

7) Which two musicians were credited as having "invented" bebop? Charlie and Dizzy

8) Name some significant fusion artists/bands. The Yellowjackets...beyond that, don't do a lot of fusion.

9) Why was jazz born in New Orleans?

A lengthy thesis could be written about this, but the basics of it have to do with the diversity in New Orleans and a sort of "freer" culture

10) Name some big bands that were well known beyond the Swing era?

Count Basie Orchestra for one

11) Name some tunes based on rhythm changes? Blues changes?

Rhythm: Oleo, Anthropology, Salt Peanuts Blues Changes: Oh geez, too many to even think about here. Um, Mr. PC, C Jam, etc, etc, etc

12) Name 10 well-known jazz standards

Mr. PC
Blue Bossa
Autumn Leaves
On Green Dolphin Street
Black Orpheus
Groovin High
Anthropology
Salt Peanuts
Giant Steps
One Note Samba

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by JazzCatDRP 

Hmmm...never really tried to explain the difference in words. Bebop was the first real jazz music not very accessible to the public...meaning one had to really be a "jazz lover" as opposed to a "music lover" to appreciate bebop. This was made big by cats like Charlie and Dizzy. Hard bop came next, which was more less "out there" and more accessible to the general public...here we're talking cats like Coltrane and Miles.

Hmmm... Coltrane and Miles wouldn't have been the people I would have chosen to represent this genre.

Miles seemed to skip most of the hard bop thing and go from Cool to Modal, for the most part. Coltrane was moving towards his avant-guard sheets of sound thing. What Coltrane was doing seemed much different than say, Clifford Brown, Art Blakey, Horace Silver, the Adderlys, etc.

Not completely sure what exactly you're referring to...his major contribution was to modal improvisation. He did a little work with Charlie Parker in the bebop era, but wasn't exactly groundbreaking in that genre. Certainly in the cool jazz genre, Miles was king.

I was looking for Cool, Modal, Fusion (I think I misspoke in saying bop earlier in this thread.. substitute Fusion for bop).

6) What is "Cool" jazz, and what were the characteristics of this genre? Who were some of the major performers within this genre?

It's basically the harmony of bebop with a mellow, laid back style. Miles Davis reigns king here.

I'd add fewer changes, and took place on the west coast primarily (and was often called west coast jazz), but yeah...

[BRussell]

What instruments do you jazzers play? BTW, my user information that appears on the side of my posts contains a jazz reference. Extra points for identifying it and what it means.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by BRussell 

What instruments do you jazzers play?

Any.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by BRussell 

What instruments do you jazzers play? BTW, my user information that appears on the side of my posts contains a jazz reference. Extra points for identifying it and what it means.

Playing outside the changes...

I'm a trumpet player.

[JazzCatDRP]

Trumpet, piano and guitar...but trumpet's how I make most of my living