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Movie premise: In a world where being gay is the norm, a man and woman fall in love
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I just watched a Greek movie last night about a man and a woman who fall in love in a world where being gay is normal and being straight is considered morally wrong. Interesting commentary about how people treat others who are different. What if the tables were turned?
The movie is called Straight Story, and it was the biggest theatrical success of the year in Greece, selling over 400,000 tickets. It's out on DVD now, and has English subtitles available.
Translation of the synopsis from the website:
Get ready for the comedy of the year! Yanni and Sofia are two young adults who have the misfortune of... falling in love with each other. Their parents get headaches simply by hearing about their relationship, neighbors cross to the other side of the street when they approach, the "people in charge" want to close down the bar they have fun at, and the whole community would love to get rid of them and... "their kind." Why is this budding relationship being treated as a crime? What is their... problem? Because they are... straight!
Yanni and Sofia had the... bad luck of being born in a world different from our own, where the norm is for people to fall in love, marry and raise families with members of the same sex. Familes consist only of mothers or fathers and whoever dares to behave differently gets put on a "black" list!
Does this even remotely sound interesting to anyone else? I thought it treated the subject in a positive way.
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I thought it treated the subject in a positive way.
What subject?
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Originally Posted by wolfen
What subject?
The subject of how people who are "different" are treated in this world.
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That web site is worth visiting just for the badass Greco-rap in the intro.
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Originally Posted by Person Man
The subject of how people who are "different" are treated in this world.
Wow, what a refreshing concept for a movie!
Seriously, sounds clever. Of course, it would be the Greeks who would make such a movie, wouldn't it. I kid, I kid!
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Twilight Zone-like concept.
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Originally Posted by Person Man
The subject of how people who are "different" are treated in this world.
I'm trying to understand how "turning the tables" and catastrophizing heterosexuality is a "positive way" of dealing with it. In strict terms, it is a negative way. It is just turning the negativism around on someone else.
A positive way is to demonstrate a world where people actually love and accept each other. In other words, Will and Grace is more "positive" because it shows likeable people who are very different, and doesn't capitalize on fear and distrust to move the plot.
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Originally Posted by wolfen
I'm trying to understand how "turning the tables" and catastrophizing heterosexuality is a "positive way" of dealing with it. In strict terms, it is a negative way. It is just turning the negativism around on someone else.
A positive way is to demonstrate a world where people actually love and accept each other. In other words, Will and Grace is more "positive" because it shows likeable people who are very different, and doesn't capitalize on fear and distrust to move the plot.
While reenforcing the notion that stereotypes are hilarious.
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Originally Posted by Laminar
While reenforcing the notion that stereotypes are hilarious.
You don't think that stereotypes are hilarious? What's wrong with you? Are you some kind of humorless liberal? Are you really telling me that Borat didn't almost rip you apart with laughter? Those hilarious stereotypes!
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Originally Posted by wolfen
I'm trying to understand how "turning the tables" and catastrophizing heterosexuality is a "positive way" of dealing with it. In strict terms, it is a negative way. It is just turning the negativism around on someone else.
A positive way is to demonstrate a world where people actually love and accept each other. In other words, Will and Grace is more "positive" because it shows likeable people who are very different, and doesn't capitalize on fear and distrust to move the plot.
Well, the movie is a comedy, so they can get away with certain things that a more serious movie could not. The point of the movie is to show how absurd it is to treat "different" people they way they are currently treated. It helps the non-gay viewer., through empathy with the characters, to see what it's like for gay people. And at the end of the movie (I don't want to give this away for people thinking of trying to watch it):
We see it's all a dream by Yanni's father. Yanni's father ended up in the hospital after fainting after Yanni told him he was gay. His father throws him out, but in the end, his father accepts him for who he is.
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Originally Posted by olePigeon
I already saw Rent.
haha. This ain't Rent.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
Sounds gay
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It would be funny if the movie ended up as a dream and the characters were actually gay in a straight world.
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Reminds me of that weird John Travolta movie a few years back where whites were the minority. It did make you think, but the problem was it had John Travolta.
I think it was called "white mans burder" or something like that.
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Originally Posted by design219
I think it was called "white mans burder" or something like that.
Sounds more like a Mel Gibson movie. *ducks*
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Originally Posted by design219
Reminds me of that weird John Travolta movie a few years back where whites were the minority. It did make you think, but the problem was it had John Travolta.
I think it was called "white mans burder" or something like that.
That is funny because Travolta is also gay.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
That is funny because Travolta is also gay.
I think you meant to say that He's a Scientologist, just like the super-straight Tom Cruise
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So how exactly are these normal people reproducing in this film?
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Originally Posted by davidflas
I think you meant to say that He's a Scientologist, just like the super-straight Tom Cruise
Well he is both then.
Any any rate the word on the street is the two of them became Scientologists because the cult promised they could "Cure them" if you know what I mean.
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54
So how exactly are these normal people reproducing in this film?
Maybe it's a sci-fi flick!
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54
So how exactly are these normal people reproducing in this film?
God is that all you ever think about? Sex sex sexsexsex.
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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ
God is that all you ever think about? Sex sex sexsexsex.
Are you speaking directly to God?
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Originally Posted by osiris
Are you speaking directly to God?
I have a cash-level response for this question and its too bad I just don't have the heart to post it.
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He thought about rain once.
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Originally Posted by design219
He thought about rain once.
Yeah, 'makin' it rain' at a strip club.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
Well he is both then.
Any any rate the word on the street is the two of them became Scientologists because the cult promised they could "Cure them" if you know what I mean.
Yes, I get you, I know a guy who is an evangelical christian and thinks that all homosexuals can and *should be* cured, maybe he can "help" you
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So, this gay Greek movie sounds interesting. I wonder how they procreate.
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Originally Posted by davidflas
I know a guy who is an evangelical christian and thinks that all homosexuals can and *should be* cured, maybe he can "help" you
Did you suggest Scientology to him?
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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ
I have a cash-level response for this question and its too bad I just don't have the heart to post it.
Have one of your minions post it.
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If I had minions, I'd be running this place.
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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ
If I had minions, I'd be running this place.
Minions can be expensive, with the health care and all.
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I hear they expect dental nowadays too.
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Originally Posted by osiris
So, this gay Greek movie sounds interesting. I wonder how they procreate.
Funny enough, they never address the issue of procreation at all. It's sidestepped entirely.
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It's kind of like wondering how the light sabers work. Just enjoy.
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Originally Posted by Person Man
Funny enough, they never address the issue of procreation at all. It's sidestepped entirely.
It might be a great way to address the population problem - more gays = less procreation = happier planet!
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Originally Posted by peeb
It might be a great way to address the population problem - more gays = less procreation = happier planet!
And everyone is fabulous!
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Originally Posted by design219
It's kind of like wondering how the light sabers work. Just enjoy.
I would if I were into 'light sabers'
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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ
If I had minions, I'd be running this place.
I'm close though, right?
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You're more like a Trusted Lieutenant.
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Hm. It sounds like the premise of this movie was at least loosely inspired by MacNN. I think we should start a class action suit for royalties.
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You're more like a Trusted Lieutenant.
Hey, I'm digging the capital letters.
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The position has its perks.
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You mean I get more than capital letters?
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Sure, but I was referring to the capital letters as a perk.
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Originally Posted by Laminar
You mean I get more than capital letters?
You get to give your boss the reach-around three times a day.
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