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How would you implement refugee housing centers that keep them safe but away from the general populace? Going after ISIS, how nasty should we be?
ISIS has been doing PR violence to highlight just how deadly they can be.
Should the wast do the same with their most vile and dangerous bad guys?
Stuff like impaling them on steel spikes, or dumping them into dumpsters of boiling tar/pigfat/mud?
ISIS has been doing PR violence to highlight just how deadly they can be.
Should the wast do the same with their most vile and dangerous bad guys?
Stuff like impaling them on steel spikes, or dumping them into dumpsters of boiling tar/pigfat/mud?
They have no problem arresting a man for tweeting(free speech), yet when 1400 of their own children are being violated(actions) by gangs of muslims, they're too 'politically correct' to do anything.
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I don't think the UK has an inalienable right to free speech the way we do.
Agreed. Fixed.
The point of my post was that they seem to be very quick to persecute someone for their "words"/"speech", when deemed anti-muslim, yet when gangs of muslim men violate/rape/terrorize indigenous Christian children, they choose to be "politically correct" and do nothing.
A different case from the one i've mentioned before. The perpetrators in both cases have one thing in common, and the police well...lets just say policing tweets and speech is a higher priority to them.
Good? Bad? Personally I'm horrified at how people people are becoming so desensitized to terror attacks, it's becoming very much like, "Oh, Islamic terrorists have killed 20 more people... Wow, check out that Lakers' score!" Humanity is seemingly getting worse with every passing week, now.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
Good? Bad? Personally I'm horrified at how people people are becoming so desensitized to terror attacks, it's becoming very much like, "Oh, Islamic terrorists have killed 20 more people... Wow, check out that Lakers' score!" Humanity is seemingly getting worse with every passing week, now.
Don't we do the same exact thing with mass shootings in this country?
Totally knee-jerk response here, but if desensitization to terrorism is what it takes for people to stop throwing their civil liberties under the bus, then desensitization it is.
Totally knee-jerk response here, but if desensitization to terrorism is what it takes for people to stop throwing their civil liberties under the bus, then desensitization it is.
I'm certainly coming around to the idea that reaction to such incidents is not proportional with their actual impact.
Well, I could see a few perspectives here. It barely affects Americans, it has had some affect on Europe in the near-term, and the Mid East has been ****ed by it.
But then, if the answer is war, my question would be, why hasn't that worked all the other times we did it?
Don't we do the same exact thing with mass shootings in this country?
We do, to a degree, even though they're orders of magnitude less frequent. We don't treat mental illness with the urgency it deserves.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
A magnitude less frequent than terrorism? Mane if you're going apples to oranges and comparing the US to the world.
Proportionately they're orders of magnitude less frequent. Worldwide there were >32000 killed in Islamic terrorist attacks in 2014, in the USA mass shootings accounted for 37 fatalities that year.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
Proportionately they're orders of magnitude less frequent. Worldwide there were >32000 killed in Islamic terrorist attacks in 2014, in the USA mass shootings accounted for 37 fatalities that year.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
Comparing worldwide figures to a USA only figure is NOT comparing apples to oranges? Wouldn't it make more sense to compare terrorist attacks in the USA to to non-terrorist related mass shootings in the USA?
Thankfully we've not had enough mass shootings in this country to become desensitized to them.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
Do you have evidence that Americans are becoming desensitized to mass shootings?
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
What does mass shooting have to do with islamic terrorism?
Mass shooting are essentially random with almost no consistency in MO. While islamic terrorism is a consistent pattern of behavior across continents, language and cultures of people who subscribe to a particular value system. (facts dont care about your feelings)
Whether or not people are desensitized to one or the other is irrelevant.
You can limit the risk of terrorism by denying entry into the country of those *foreigners* susceptible, and not violate any rights of any citizen by doing so. To limit the risk of random mass shooting, what can you do without first violating the rights of every citizens?(assuming you are suggesting gun bans, tighter gun controls, etc)
Both need to be addressed. One involves protecting citizens from foreign threats, and the other involves protecting citizens from each other. Both, IMHO being primary functions of government.
The west, thankfully didn't share the attitude of those on the socialist/communist side of politics when WorldWar II broke out or when the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor. I wonder how those totalitarian, tyrannical ideologies were defeated. Was it with flowers or kisses?
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And you're just now learning that? They are also taking great pains to wipe out the remaining Orthodox and Catholics left in the region. IS went into a home for the elderly specifically looking for these four sisters, then killed them. They were from the order founded by Bl. Theresa of Calcutta
What British Muslims Really Think - Hosted by Trevor Philips, a former Labour politician (the "left" side of the isle) and former chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission in Great Britain.
I just read the following comment on an article in the Washington Post, and i feel it reflects my sentiments perfectly:
"I wish the best to all the barbaric, misogynistic, pedophilic, homophobic Islamic countries of the world. But the one thing I want is for my government to keep them away from me."
(I would add anti-semitic and intolerant of other religions to the list)
I just read the following comment on an article in the Washington Post, and i feel it reflects my sentiments perfectly:
"I wish the best to all the barbaric, misogynistic, pedophilic, homophobic Islamic countries of the world. But the one thing I want is for my government to keep them away from me."
(I would add anti-semitic and intolerant of other religions to the list)
You realise this is exactly how liberals feel about conservatives? Whats funny is that pretty much all the same complaints apply.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
What they think or what they actually DO? Because there's a huge gulf between those things. I believe Islam is inherently vile, but I wouldn't work to stop someone from practicing their faith, so long as others aren't being harmed.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
You don't think its ironic that one group is hating another for doing things they do themselves?
What group? I only saw a quote from one guy - a guy who's viewpoints are apparently spot on with yours (just with a different target). At least he's admonishing tyrannical nation states that murder and subjugate their people. You are hating on people with different ideological views as yours, and somehow passing it off as "righteous".
You are just as discriminatory and prejudicial as those you admonish. But, in your mind, it's ok because you're hating the "right" people for the "right" reasons. Just because there are some very hateful people out there on all sides of the spectrum does not give you license to act as they do and still call yourself a credibly moral person.
What group? I only saw a quote from one guy - a guy who's viewpoints are apparently spot on with yours (just with a different target). At least he's admonishing tyrannical nation states that murder and subjugate their people. You are hating on people with different ideological views as yours, and somehow passing it off as "righteous".
You are just as discriminatory and prejudicial as those you admonish. But, in your mind, it's ok because you're hating the "right" people for the "right" reasons. Just because there are some very hateful people out there on all sides of the spectrum does not give you license to act as they do and still call yourself a credibly moral person.
His admonishments are on the money, its just I find it a little hypocritical to see them in the WP given the same admonishments could justifiably be levelled against a good portion of their readership.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
What they think or what they actually DO? Because there's a huge gulf between those things. I believe Islam is inherently vile, but I wouldn't work to stop someone from practicing their faith, so long as others aren't being harmed.
Think, say and often campaign to legislate towards. I'm not saying they are lynching homosexuals or anything, but while its less doing than the extremist islamic countries they criticise, its a little more than just thinking, sadly.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
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