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NetworkShadow · Apr 18, 2004, 05:02 PM

http://www.apple.com/software/pro/

It's a lot like Studio Pro but with a few new things like this interesting grey interface called "Dashboards" (but I can't find better images):

Sure might make a cool dark theme.

Also check out all the apps and the site design, there are some cool color schemes that might make for some cool Studio Pro variations, swiz?

phillryu · Apr 18, 2004, 05:12 PM

Dashboards looks pretty nice! Kinda like a greyscale digital device. Joe Kohlmann, where are you?

NetworkShadow · Apr 18, 2004, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by phillryu:
Dashboards looks pretty nice! Kinda like a greyscale digital device. Joe Kohlmann, where are you?

It looks a little less flat though, look at the pop-up button in the first iamge.

jessejlt · Apr 18, 2004, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
http://www.apple.com/software/pro/

It's a lot like Studio Pro but with a few new things like this interesting grey interface called "Dashboards" (but I can't find better images):

Sure might make a cool dark theme.

Also check out all the apps and the site design, there are some cool color schemes that might make for some cool Studio Pro variations, swiz?

It really is a beautiful interface. I wish Apple would give Xcode that "Pro-makeover" that the rest of the pro-apps have received.
jesse ;-)

codywalton · Apr 18, 2004, 05:21 PM

oh, schweeet!

Apple keeps killing off my Adobe apps one by one.

Final Cut replaced Premiere

Motion very well may replace After Effects

... now we just need an Apple Photoshop-type app.

phillryu · Apr 18, 2004, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by codywalton:
oh, schweeet!

Apple keeps killing off my Adobe apps one by one.

Final Cut replaced Premiere

Motion very well may replace After Effects

... now we just need an Apple Photoshop-type app.

Yah. I was just talking to Adam Betts, and he's worried that Adobe might pull out. But we think that if it comes to that, Apple would make a better Photoshop

NetworkShadow · Apr 18, 2004, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by phillryu:
Yah. I was just talking to Adam Betts, and he's worried that Adobe might pull out. But we think that if it comes to that, Apple would make a better Photoshop

Wouldn't put it past Apple having a "Photoshop" in the works, but Apple seems to be sticking to video editing. Personally I hope Adobe doesn't pull out, it would be bad for Apple's roll as Mac being the chose OS for design unless an Apple design suite really is a killer app like the Apple video apps are.

phillryu · Apr 18, 2004, 05:53 PM

Yeah, but Apple seems to enjoy mocking huge apps that have monopolized the industry for a decade with a 1.0 that is much better. Think Keynote, if you want to go past video editing. How could an app developed over a year be such a better experience than an application at version 10 after a decade?

fireside · Apr 18, 2004, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by phillryu:
How could an app developed over a year be such a better experience than an application at version 10 after a decade?

because Microsoft couldn't code their way out of a wet paper bag?

Nebagakid · Apr 18, 2004, 06:32 PM

I just thought of posting this thread.. but it was already here!

Please, someone make it, it would be nice, i think.

I don't think Motion can uproot After Effects, it is already too much of a staple. Final Cut Pro was able to come in and become a huge standard because there was no other video editor for DV that was that good.

sanity assassin · Apr 18, 2004, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by Nebagakid:
I just thought of posting this thread.. but it was already here!

Please, someone make it, it would be nice, i think.

I don't think Motion can uproot After Effects, it is already too much of a staple. Final Cut Pro was able to come in and become a huge standard because there was no other video editor for DV that was that good.

True, Motion at version 1 can't compare to AE, or Combustion, it lacks quite a number of very imporant features (tracker, decent colour correction tools), but for what it's intebded market is, it'l be a nice app. and provide a nice twist on GUI inrteraction.

phillryu · Apr 18, 2004, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by sanity assassin:
True, Motion at version 1 can't compare to AE, or Combustion, it lacks quite a number of very imporant features (tracker, decent colour correction tools), but for what it's intebded market is, it'l be a nice app. and provide a nice twist on GUI inrteraction.

I'm no video pro, but doesn't FCP already have color correction built in?

sanity assassin · Apr 18, 2004, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by phillryu:
I'm no video pro, but doesn't FCP already have color correction built in?

It does, but it's not really geared towards major compositing, it has some compositing tools, but again, it's not really a replacement for a dedicated compositor. I guess this is where Motion might come in, but probably in later revisions. Motion seems to be an exercise in productivity over substance, which is a good thing for the future, but at the end ofthe day, the compositor needs the right tools for those specific tasks that film, and video production brings along.

NetworkShadow · Apr 18, 2004, 08:07 PM

wow off topic now! So any ideas for themes come to mind when looking at this? I like the colors used on the site, and I'm sure would make for a cool Studio Pro update or maybe new theme.

If anyone finds any better screens of the Dashboards please post them.

:dragonflypro: · Apr 18, 2004, 08:08 PM

Aren't the motion 'Dashboards' transparent like the volume bezels?

I would love to see the used more throughout the entire OS. Just about every palette in my opinion could inherit a lot from this concept..

...along with being 'tab-able' like the new InDesign CS or buddy pop.

I think the effect would do a very good job of giving the UI a more 'open-aired' feeling.

Sorry... didn't mean to go OT....

T

NetworkShadow · Apr 18, 2004, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by :dragonflypro::
Aren't the motion 'Dashboards' transparent like the volume bezels?

They are transparent, but hay you can't always get what you want, an opaque theme based on the Dashboards would be really cool still.

Patcarla · Apr 19, 2004, 02:11 AM

I like those dashboards. I t would indeed make a great theme.
NS, if you find some better picst, I'll be interested..

NetworkShadow · Apr 19, 2004, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Patcarla:
I like those dashboards. I t would indeed make a great theme.
NS, if you find some better picst, I'll be interested..

I've got my eyes open.

FB Eye · Apr 19, 2004, 02:59 PM

Let's wait and see what Swiz thinks when he's back from vacation...

He's the expert so far at turning Apple "pro" UIs into themes. That one would be a nice addition to his portfolio

huggeebear · Aug 20, 2004, 01:57 AM

Just thought I'd remind everyone that motion has been released now. There must be a Motion GFX designer here with a really beefy G5 and Gfx Card who could let Swiz borrow it for a while

siMac · Aug 20, 2004, 08:04 AM

Sorry to stray back off topic but someone mentioned compositing - isn't that what Shake has won Oscars for?

Anyhoo, the new Dashboard interface is very sleek, looks even better in action all transparent and gorgeous!

aristotles · Aug 20, 2004, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by siMac:
Sorry to stray back off topic but someone mentioned compositing - isn't that what Shake has won Oscars for?

Anyhoo, the new Dashboard interface is very sleek, looks even better in action all transparent and gorgeous!

Shake is a high end compositing engine for film whereas this is targeted towards standard and HD video and is more like After Effects with the titling and layers.

aristotles · Aug 20, 2004, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by phillryu:
How could an app developed over a year be such a better experience than an application at version 10 after a decade?

It's called feature creep. It can totally ruin your intended flow for a UI. For every major release, developers should sit down with UI designers and analysts to figure out which features should be added, where they should appear and decide whether to redo the UI from scratch to fit it all in there.

That approach might add a bit of a learning curve for every new version but you would gain a less cluttered UI.

SafariX · Aug 20, 2004, 11:48 AM

Developing a Motion-esque theme would be awesome. I'm slowly getting into theming, maybe I'll give it a go over the weekend.

Patcarla · Aug 20, 2004, 02:51 PM

As I said a few posts above I'd be interested in giving a try..
If somebody could provide some high res screen shot, I'll see what can be done

NetworkShadow · Aug 20, 2004, 02:55 PM

Too bad Apple's pr site doesn't have any shots of the Dashboards... http://www.apple.com/pr/photos/motion/motion.html I'll keep my eyes open though.

Patcarla · Aug 20, 2004, 02:59 PM

Yea..I visit their PR site often but the screenshots for motion aren't good enough..
We need somebody who got the app I guess..

Patcarla · Aug 21, 2004, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:

It's a lot like Studio Pro but with a few new things like this interesting grey interface called "Dashboards" (but I can't find better images):

I made a quick mockup based on the dashboard above..
don't know if that would make a good theme but suggestions comments are welcome..

aristotles · Aug 21, 2004, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Patcarla:
I made a quick mockup based on the dashboard above..
don't know if that would make a good theme but suggestions comments are welcome..

that looks pretty sweet.

NetworkShadow · Aug 21, 2004, 04:20 PM

Looks like a good start. A bit darker than the screens, but until you can find better you did good. You need to do the glyphs in the widgets, like the X to close the window etc, that's one of the things that looked really cool to me.

Oh maybe you could ask around in the software forum, or even the Apple.com motion forum for some screens?

monkeybrain · Aug 21, 2004, 04:25 PM

Looks good. The white in the scrollbar background could really stand out though, and the widgets should be bigger with the X in etc. Nice work though!

Patcarla · Aug 21, 2004, 04:33 PM

yeah I don't like these scrollbars anyway..
And I'm so used to small widgets that bigger ones look weird too me

NS: if you think that the colors are darker that means that my color manager on photoshop is not right..
I agree about the glyphs..I should put them
I'll see if I can get some screenshots..and keep your eyes open too

btw, if you want to work on the mockup, feel free to do so..

fireside · Aug 21, 2004, 04:41 PM

i hate those scroll arrow button glyphs. they look like the stuff from whatshisface.

that japanese dude. not the siro guy, but the other one.

other than the titlebar widgets it looks okay.

Zee_on · Aug 21, 2004, 05:46 PM

if no one gets them sooner I will be able to get screenshots in like 5 days, (D/Ling, don't tell

) or the actual elements...

hehe

NetworkShadow · Aug 21, 2004, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Zee_on:
if no one gets them sooner I will be able to get screenshots in like 5 days, (D/Ling, don't tell ) or the actual elements...

hehe

haha nice. Hope there are no FBI on this forum.

Actual elements would be really cool.

huggeebear · Aug 21, 2004, 09:24 PM

Some screenies here Creative cow motion review

version · Aug 22, 2004, 06:14 AM

I'd prefer something based on modo. check out all the links on the site to the program's interface.
http://www.luxology.com/modo/workflow.aspx
http://www.luxology.com/modo/interface.aspx

NetworkShadow · Aug 22, 2004, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by version:
I'd prefer something based on modo. check out all the links on the site to the program's interface.
http://www.luxology.com/modo/workflow.aspx
http://www.luxology.com/modo/interface.aspx

There's already a thread for that idea, please keep it out of this one.

BurningBright · Aug 22, 2004, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by version:
I'd prefer something based on modo. check out all the links on the site to the program's interface.
http://www.luxology.com/modo/workflow.aspx
http://www.luxology.com/modo/interface.aspx

"You're tacky and I hate you" - Billy, School of Rock

I'll be honest. modo's interface makes me want to be sick with boredom. motion is much cooler - inspired me to try a chalkboard theme actually. Way more possibilities here than the bland puke-grey thing (although I imagine a modo theme looking better than modo itself given the skills in here)

version · Aug 23, 2004, 06:05 AM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
There's already a thread for that idea, please keep it out of this one.

there is?

version · Aug 23, 2004, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by BurningBright:
"You're tacky and I hate you" - Billy, School of Rock

I'll be honest. modo's interface makes me want to be sick with boredom. motion is much cooler - inspired me to try a chalkboard theme actually. Way more possibilities here than the bland puke-grey thing (although I imagine a modo theme looking better than modo itself given the skills in here)

Motion's interface is basically like FCP and other Apple Pro apps, except for the dashbaord. In which case, the dashboard is the only new thing in it, GUI wise.

Anyway, I've got Motion, and tried modo, no contest as to what has the nicer interface, modo, IMO.

BurningBright · Aug 23, 2004, 10:39 AM

Sorry - Motion's dashboards are of course what I was referring to - not the whole thing.

NetworkShadow · Aug 23, 2004, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by BurningBright:
Sorry - Motion's dashboards are of course what I was referring to - not the whole thing.

Indeed, that's what this topic has been geared toward.

huggeebear · Aug 26, 2004, 08:51 AM

new screenies here http://www.creativemac.com/articles/...e.jsp?id=27584

Macanoid · Sep 4, 2004, 12:02 PM

Just curious if anyone is still working on this at all?

blackdog12345 · 11:13 PM

edit: removed your all jake ass's

Spook E · Sep 5, 2004, 12:24 AM

keep going im really looking forward to this one

Macanoid · Sep 5, 2004, 03:15 AM

me too!!!!!

blackdog12345 · 11:13 PM

edit: removed your all jake ass's

swiz · Sep 5, 2004, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by blackdog12345:
here is a look at the beta mockup
http://penguinn.com/~blackdog/mockup.jpg

That is far from what this theme should be, take a closer look at the screenshot in NS's first post. If its not going to look at least VERY close to the GUI from Apple, it shouldnt be considered as such.