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Aug 3, 2011, 01:24 PM
 
I might be late to the party, but has anyone else noticed that the new Lion "full-screen mode" is essentially only useful with a single monitor?

If you try to use it with "spaces" (aka "Mission Control"), the second monitor gets this gray-fabric pattern and you can't do a thing with it. Essentially if you want to use multiple monitors under OSX Lion you need to give up using the new Full Screen mode. Not a huge-deal, but you'd think someone would have fixed this in development? Are there that few of us that use multiple displays? (Since Apple is shipping a spiffy new 27" monitor to go with their new notebooks I'd think the answer is no, but ...)
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Aug 3, 2011, 06:15 PM
 
Of course. iPads only have one screen.
     
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Aug 3, 2011, 06:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by mduell View Post
Of course. iPads only have one screen.
I believe Macs have been renamed to iPad Pros.
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Aug 3, 2011, 08:14 PM
 
Ahh ... took me a second to figure out what you all were doing right there. Got it.

In all seriousness though: I like the full-screen model. I've always hated the wasted screen space that comes with partial-screen windows. It's nice to see that Windows 8 is also moving in that direction.

Hopefully the multi-monitor issue gets fixed in a service pack, or at least with 10.8
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Aug 6, 2011, 11:34 PM
 
Yeah this is one of the worst oversights. Especially since Apple markets the Thunderbolt display as having the option of TWO displays hooked up to a MacBook Pro.
     
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Aug 7, 2011, 11:01 AM
 
Originally Posted by Salty View Post
Yeah this is one of the worst oversights. Especially since Apple markets the Thunderbolt display as having the option of TWO displays hooked up to a MacBook Pro.
Agreed. I'm not sure how that didn't become an issue during testing or beta. The Apple respose is that "you can still use the thing like you used to". True: But then you also can't take advantage of this much-hyped new feature.
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Aug 7, 2011, 12:21 PM
 
Just another example of Apple ignoring their pro-consumers. I've actually been fairly disappointed with MacOS's dual monitor functionality for awhile; it's quite annoying to have an app on the second screen but it's menu bar is located on the primary screen. Fortunately, there are hacks to fix Apple's oversight.
     
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Aug 7, 2011, 02:02 PM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
Just another example of Apple ignoring their pro-consumers. I've actually been fairly disappointed with MacOS's dual monitor functionality for awhile; it's quite annoying to have an app on the second screen but it's menu bar is located on the primary screen. Fortunately, there are hacks to fix Apple's oversight.
That's a non-issue. When you bring up monitor settings you can drag the menu bar to whichever monitor you want to have it. No hacks needed.
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Aug 7, 2011, 02:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by driven View Post
That's a non-issue. When you bring up monitor settings you can drag the menu bar to whichever monitor you want to have it. No hacks needed.
I don't know how you use multiple monitors, but I typically use them to multitask, with different apps on each monitor. Your suggestion doesn't work if you run one app on one monitor and a second app on another monitor ... unless you keep jumping into settings each time you jump from one app to another.
     
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Aug 7, 2011, 03:51 PM
 
You want the menu bar to keep jumping from one monitor to the next depending on which screen you are using? That would annoy me.
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Aug 7, 2011, 04:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by driven View Post
You want the menu bar to keep jumping from one monitor to the next depending on which screen you are using? That would annoy me.
Of course not. That would annoy me as well. But, that is only ONE possible solution. Quite honestly, I think Windows has a superior design in this regard, where the Menu Bar is attached to each window rather than being at the OS layer. The hack that I've found isn't too bad; it clones the Menu Bar to the other monitor, so you have the Menu Bar on each monitor.

It seems to me as though this lack of design consideration is a similar symptom as the lack of though for full screen support. It's a tricky problem where solutions contradict fundamental MacOS designs that Apple chooses not to deal with since the user base most impacted (ie: advanced users with frequently used multiple monitor setups) are few.
     
   
 
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