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Rumor · May 25, 2007, 05:19 PM

Gates and Jobs get set for historic tete-a-tete - MarketWatch

This happens next Wednesday. Any speculation on how it will go?

cjrivera · May 25, 2007, 05:31 PM

I hope they open the discussion with this guy...

"Let's get ready to RUUUMMMMMMBBBLLLE!"

Wiskedjak · May 25, 2007, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

This happens next Wednesday. Any speculation on how it will go?

It'll be very polite. Jobs will be finely polished and in a black turtleneck; Gates, in comparison, will look like he just got out of bed, wearing a plaid shirt. Jobs will wipe the floor with Gates. But, none of it will matter to anyone but the people who are already convinced to buy Apple.

Adam Betts · May 25, 2007, 06:03 PM

I read the title as "Jobs and Gates to have 75 minute of hot, steamy phone conversation"

Rumor · May 25, 2007, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Adam Betts

I read the title as "Jobs and Gates to have 75 minute of hot, steamy phone conversation"

Only on Pay-Per-View.

mac128k-1984 · May 25, 2007, 06:51 PM

It will probably go over pretty well, they've done stuff like this before (very rarely but they've been seen together).

GSixZero · May 25, 2007, 07:37 PM

I'm sure it'll be very civil, and both will talk mostly about computing and entertainment in general. I doubt there will be any bickering about operating systems.

Actually, I can't think of anything they'd actually disagree about. Both have the same talking points of new ways to consume media, and new ways to explore your digital lifestyle®.

Eriamjh · May 25, 2007, 09:54 PM

"It's like.. baby music."

Lateralus · May 25, 2007, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by mac128k-1984

It will probably go over pretty well, they've done stuff like this before (very rarely but they've been seen together).

Uh... When?

Although Gates made a famous phone call to Jobs in 1997 and the two briefly shared a stage at a 1983 Apple event, the two industry icons have never had a public conversation.

Eug · May 25, 2007, 11:46 PM

Steve: "Boom!"
Bill: "Wow!"

zro · May 26, 2007, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Uh... When?

Uh...

Atheist · May 26, 2007, 12:31 AM

I think they took this picture right after their first date... several months before they broke up.

Lateralus · May 26, 2007, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by zro

Uh...

Three problems;

1) The middle pic isn't Gates and Jobs. It's Anthony Michael Hall and Noah Wyle.
2) Posing for a picture in 20 years ago doesn't count.
3) Meeting at a large dinner, most likely one organized for industry leaders, is not at all in the same ballpark as a public conversation.

Uhu..hh.h.h.uhhhhuuhhhhh.....huh...hh...uuu...

PowerbookG3 · May 26, 2007, 12:53 AM

The faces could of been photoshop'd?

zro · May 26, 2007, 01:48 AM

Haha! Wylie and Hall, my bad. I thought Gates looked a little funny. So-to-speak.

The older picture (the real one) was taken for an interview done for Fortune magazine in 1991. JOBS AND GATES TOGETHER The boy wonders of computing, now thirtysomething, argue over where innovation comes from and where PCs will go. - August 26, 1991 A bit more than a pose for a picture, wouldn't you say.

They obviously did more than "meet" at that dinner. In that picture they're having... *gasp* a conversation! There are other photos of them together at the event but not at the table. Also, for whatever reason, Gates seems to be the only one not sporting a lanyard pass.

At any rate, they have most certainly been seen together and they have conversed before. Doubt it all you like. Uh.

SpaceMonkey · May 26, 2007, 02:05 AM

For some reason I imagine Jobs as James Lipton.

Lateralus · May 26, 2007, 02:09 AM

Why are you trying to turn this into an argument?

Did I ever say that they have never met and don't meet? No... Because that would be stupid. Especially since Microsoft's first real break came from developing software for Apple. And with Jobs and Gates both having been giants of the industry for well over two decades, I'm sure they run into each other regularly.

What I said was in response to 128k's statement that they have done anything remotely close to a 75 minute 1-on-1 public conversation before. Which they most certainly have not.

So put your stick away.

Originally Posted by zro

Haha! Wylie and Hall, my bad. I thought Gates looked a little funny. So-to-speak.

The older picture (the real one) was taken for an interview done for Fortune magazine in 1991. JOBS AND GATES TOGETHER The boy wonders of computing, now thirtysomething, argue over where innovation comes from and where PCs will go. - August 26, 1991 A bit more than a pose for a picture, wouldn't you say.

They obviously did more than "meet" at that dinner. In that picture they're having... *gasp* a conversation! There are other photos of them together at the event but not at the table. Also, for whatever reason, Gates seems to be the only one not sporting a lanyard pass.

At any rate, they have most certainly been seen together and they have conversed before. Doubt it all you like. Uh.

Rumor · May 26, 2007, 02:35 AM

The key word is public. I'm sure they have talked many times over the years. They may possibly be friends. The dinner, where they are seen having what looks to be a good time, isn't considered public.

Nodnarb · May 26, 2007, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by zro

At any rate, they have most certainly been seen together and they have conversed before. Doubt it all you like. Uh.

...yeah, they definetely have been seen together and have talked to eachother. Duh

.

However, this is different because when they have talked, there have not been journalists and cameras present...do you see a (major) difference?

This seems very cool though. I'm excited to see how it goes, however I agree that they will remain quite civil throughout their discussion. It will probably just be a "yay computers" themed conversation, rather then a "Microsoft vs. Apple" theme.

OwlBoy · May 26, 2007, 03:51 AM

I hope it ends up on the net. I wanna see!

-Owl

PowerbookG3 · May 26, 2007, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by OwlBoy

I hope it ends up on the net. I wanna see!

-Owl

What's the bet that people are going to stream it on the internet live?

zro · May 26, 2007, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Why are you trying to turn this into an argument?

Did I ever say that they have never met and don't meet? No... Because that would be stupid. Especially since Microsoft's first real break came from developing software for Apple. And with Jobs and Gates both having been giants of the industry for well over two decades, I'm sure they run into each other regularly.

What I said was in response to 128k's statement that they have done anything remotely close to a 75 minute 1-on-1 public conversation before. Which they most certainly have not.

So put your stick away.

Oh brother. Enough with the drama. When did you say they never had a conversation? When you posted this:

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Uh... When?

Although Gates made a famous phone call to Jobs in 1997 and the two briefly shared a stage at a 1983 Apple event, the two industry icons have never had a public conversation.

I agree that they've never done an Actor's Studio style forum, but the quote you use for proof is just plain incorrect. Including the fact that neither of the instances cited qualify as a "conversation."

Point of advice, don't ask questions when you aren't prepared to deal with someone providing an answer.

Lateralus · May 26, 2007, 12:10 PM

Nodnarb · May 26, 2007, 12:27 PM

Zro, you want to stop derailing the thread? Yeah, that'd be sweet.

lpkmckenna · May 26, 2007, 02:10 PM

I hope it gets ugly. I wanna see Jobs call Gates "tasteless," and see Gates call Jobs a liar.

Railroader · May 26, 2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Nodnarb

Zro, you want to stop derailing the thread? Yeah, that'd be sweet.

You're kidding right?

Nodnarb · May 26, 2007, 02:40 PM

No. Every one of his posts in this thread has just been trying to argue with Lateralus that Jobs and Gates have in fact publicly met before.

I understand the irony that my statement was not OT either, but it was just annoying seeing them go back and forth over such a mundane point.

OT...: so has anyone heard any other news of whether or not this will be broadcast on the web or are we just gonna have to read a text transcript?

Railroader · May 26, 2007, 02:59 PM

It takes two (and in this case three) to argue.

And the very first response to the OP was off topic. And the post zro was responding to was off topic. I'm just saying, your being a little picky to point out and bitch about zro when there are many offenders here (a mod no less).

Rumor · May 26, 2007, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by zro

Oh brother. Enough with the drama. When did you say they never had a conversation? When you posted this:

I agree that they've never done an Actor's Studio style forum, but the quote you use for proof is just plain incorrect. Including the fact that neither of the instances cited qualify as a "conversation."

Point of advice, don't ask questions when you aren't prepared to deal with someone providing an answer.

Again, the key word is public.

Nodnarb · May 26, 2007, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

It takes two (and in this case three) to argue.

And the very first response to the OP was off topic. And the post zro was responding to was off topic. I'm just saying, your being a little picky to point out and bitch about zro when there are many offenders here (a mod no less).

Well, in this case four.

But yeah ok, I agree with what you're (not your) saying. But the point I was trying to make, is that the subject Zro and Lateralus were going back and forth about was so lame that it was boring reading this thread...and yes, I know I could have just not responded etc. But whatever. I'm mad I'm even typing a response to this, because this is just prolonging the lameness of the thread.

zro · May 26, 2007, 04:27 PM

This place really needs a buttkissing emoticon...

You still going on about this? I'm pretty sure Lateralus and I have reached the point where we agree to disagree.

Adam Betts · May 26, 2007, 05:35 PM

Can we disagree to agree to disagree?

Kevin · May 29, 2007, 09:52 AM

Anyone gonna record it and rip it?

cjrivera · May 29, 2007, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by zro

This place really needs a buttkissing emoticon....

Kevin · May 29, 2007, 10:11 AM

centerchannel68 · May 29, 2007, 11:23 AM

I hope Steve says something about his growing marketshare, the ipod, and the success of simplicity. Then Gates admits taht OSX is better than Vista. That would be hilarious.

Dakarʒ · May 29, 2007, 11:25 AM

I hope he brags about the Zune hitting 1 million sales.

Y3a · May 29, 2007, 12:16 PM

Gates won't make it...he'll be home sick with a virus!

Kevin · May 29, 2007, 04:31 PM

But it wasn't his fault he got the virus. But some other software vendor's fault when he shook his hand of course.

brokenjago · May 29, 2007, 07:59 PM

I read the title as "Jobs and Gates to have 75 minute of hot, steamy phone conversation"

I never, ever, ever post YouTube links, but....
YouTube

shinji · May 29, 2007, 08:24 PM

Is this going to be televised?

rickey939 · May 29, 2007, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by shinji

Is this going to be televised?

Nope.

brokenjago · May 29, 2007, 11:14 PM

Is it going to be recorded by cameras?

Adam Betts · May 30, 2007, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by brokenjago

Is it going to be recorded by cameras?

Nope. Will be recorded by iPhone with Zune 2 as a backup camera squirter

mdc · May 30, 2007, 09:34 AM

Engadget has a schedule of times for people's presentations for today.

Wednesday, May 30
8:00AM - 10:30AM PST window
Steve Ballmer / Microsoft
Jeff Hawkins / Palm

11:15AM - 1:00PM PST window
Steve Jobs / Apple
I wonder what Steve will talk about? - mdc

7:15PM PST
Bill Gates & Steve Jobs

Thursday, May 31
11:00AM - 12:45PM PST window
Eric Schmidt / Google

dawho9 · 03:40 PM

Live question by question posting at:

Steve Jobs live from D 2007 - Engadget

p.s. This is the Mossberg/Jobs interview right now. Gates/Jobs is for later tonight.

residentEvil · May 30, 2007, 04:34 PM

It's like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell!

awesome quote! hahaha.

Peter · May 30, 2007, 05:16 PM

any quote by Jobs that is a jab at Microsoft is an "awesome quote"

residentEvil · May 30, 2007, 05:26 PM

it is? i must have missed that memo.

Kevin · May 30, 2007, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

any quote by Jobs that is a jab at Microsoft is an "awesome quote"

Well at the time he was making them, he had reason to, and they were pretty darn valid.