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"UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head."
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OTTAWA, CANADA (PRWEB) November 24, 2005 -- A former Canadian Minister of Defence and Deputy Prime Minister under Pierre Trudeau has joined forces with three Non-governmental organizations to ask the Parliament of Canada to hold public hearings on Exopolitics -- relations with “ETs.”

By “ETs,” Mr. Hellyer and these organizations mean ethical, advanced extraterrestrial civilizations that may now be visiting Earth.

On September 25, 2005, in a startling speech at the University of Toronto that caught the attention of mainstream newspapers and magazines, Paul Hellyer, Canada’s Defence Minister from 1963-67 under Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Prime Minister Lester Pearson, publicly stated: "UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head."

Mr. Hellyer went on to say, "I'm so concerned about what the consequences might be of starting an intergalactic war, that I just think I had to say something."

Hellyer revealed, "The secrecy involved in all matters pertaining to the Roswell incident was unparalled. The classification was, from the outset, above top secret, so the vast majority of U.S. officials and politicians, let alone a mere allied minister of defence, were never in-the-loop."

Hellyer warned, "The United States military are preparing weapons which could be used against the aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning. He stated, "The Bush administration has finally agreed to let the military build a forward base on the moon, which will put them in a better position to keep track of the goings and comings of the visitors from space, and to shoot at them, if they so decide."

Hellyer’s speech ended with a standing ovation. He said, "The time has come to lift the veil of secrecy, and let the truth emerge, so there can be a real and informed debate, about one of the most important problems facing our planet today."

Three Non-governmental organizations took Hellyer’s words to heart, and approached Canada’s Parliament in Ottawa, Canada’s capital, to hold public hearings on a possible ET presence, and what Canada should do. The Canadian Senate, which is an appointed body, has held objective, well-regarded hearings and issued reports on controversial issues such as same-sex marriage and medical marijuana,

On October 20, 2005, the Institute for Cooperation in Space requested Canadian Senator Colin Kenny, Senator, Chair of The Senate Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence, “schedule public hearings on the Canadian Exopolitics Initiative, so that witnesses such as the Hon. Paul Hellyer, and Canadian-connected high level military-intelligence, NORAD-connected, scientific, and governmental witnesses facilitated by the Disclosure Project and by the Toronto Exopolitics Symposium can present compelling evidence, testimony, and Public Policy recommendations.”

The Non-governmental organizations seeking Parliament hearings include Canada-based Toronto Exopolitics Symposium, which organized the University of Toronto Symposium at which Mr. Hellyer spoke.

The Disclosure Project, a U.S.– based organization that has assembled high level military-intelligence witnesses of a possible ET presence, is also one of the organizations seeking Canadian Parliament hearings.

Vancouver-based Institute for Cooperation in Space (ICIS), whose International Director headed a proposed 1977 Extraterrestrial Communication Study for the White House of former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, who himself has publicly reported a 1969 Close Encounter of the First Kind with a UFO, filed the original request for Canadian Parliament hearings.

The Canadian Exopolitics Initiative, presented by the organizations to a Senate Committee panel hearing in Winnipeg, Canada, on March 10, 2005, proposes that the Government of Canada undertake a Decade of Contact.

The proposed Decade of Contact is “a 10-year process of formal, funded public education, scientific research, educational curricula development and implementation, strategic planning, community activity, and public outreach concerning our terrestrial society’s full cultural, political, social, legal, and governmental communication and public interest diplomacy with advanced, ethical Off-Planet cultures now visiting Earth.”

Canada has a long history of opposing the basing of weapons in Outer Space. On September 22, 2004 Canadian
Prime Minister Paul Martin declared to the U.N. General Assembly,” "Space is our final frontier. It has always captured our imagination. What a tragedy it would be if space became one big weapons arsenal and the scene of a new arms race.

Martin stated, "In 1967, the
United Nations agreed that weapons of mass
destruction must not be based in space. The time has come to extend this ban to all weapons..."

In May, 2003, speaking before the Canadian House of Commons Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs, former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Canada Lloyd Axworthy, stated “Washington's offer to Canada is not an invitation to join America under a protective shield, but it presents a global security doctrine that violates Canadian values on many levels."

Axworthy concluded, “There should be an uncompromising commitment to preventing the placement of weapons in space.”

On February 24, 2005, Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin made official Canada's decision not to take part in the U.S government’s Ballistic Missile Defence program.

Paul Hellyer, who now seeks Canadian Parliament hearings on relations with ETs, on May 15, 2003, stated in Toronto’s Globe & Mail newspaper, “Canada should accept the long-standing invitation of U.S. Congressman
Dennis Kucinich of Ohio to launch a conference to seek approval of an international treaty to ban weapons in space. That would be a positive Canadian contribution toward a more peaceful world.”

In early November 2005, the Canadian Senate wrote ICIS, indicating the Senate Committee could not hold hearings on ETs in 2005, because of their already crowded schedule.

“That does not deter us,” one spokesperson for the Non-governmental organizations said, “We are going ahead with our request to Prime Minister Paul Martin and the official opposition leaders in the House of Commons now, and we will re-apply with the Senate of Canada in early 2006.

“Time is on the side of open disclosure that there are ethical Extraterrestrial civilizations visiting Earth,” The spokesperson stated. “Our Canadian government needs to openly address these important issues of the possible deployment of weapons in outer war plans against ethical ET societies.”
     
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Nov 26, 2005, 01:22 PM
 
If you outlaw weapons in space, only space outlaws will have weapons!
     
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We are waiting for ET's return and there is no way in Hell Spielberg will do that movie.
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Nov 26, 2005, 05:10 PM
 
So, is Paul Hellyer, Canada’s Defence Minister from 1963-67 a crack pot or what? I don't know much about Canadian Politicos.
     
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Nov 26, 2005, 05:39 PM
 
Sooooo, Paul Hellyer is worried that the US might piss off the ETs by interfering with their comprehensive programs of: mutilating our cattle, fscking with our crops, and giving us vicious anal probes in the middle of the night?
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Nov 28, 2005, 02:45 AM
 
I vote for a pre-emptive strike against the spacial flyers. After we are safe from the evil doers.

EDIT: Although I doubt W could hurt anything that's able to produce a craft capable of the type of flight in this amazing video.

http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-1783.htm
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nevermind
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Nov 28, 2005, 08:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by marden
I vote for a pre-emptive strike against the spacial flyers. After we are safe from the evil doers.
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That's American thinking.

The Canadians want to open diplomatic relations.

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Nov 28, 2005, 08:11 PM
 
I've been a pilot a long long time.
Flown around many parts of the world.
I've never seen a UFO.

But, I do believe ther is other life in our universe.
I believe there is evidence of of extraterrestrial visitations here on Earth.
     
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Nov 28, 2005, 08:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by marden
nevermind
WTF?

Humanity is either on the verge of destruction from ETs, or soon to evolve to another state of Universal consciousness, and you give up??? What wrong with you???



Back on topic; "Friendly Canada" is so for a good reason; we welcome everyone! We already have a spaceport as well, so we are ready!

We also had an alien as the leader of our country for a while!

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Originally Posted by Sky Captain
I've been a pilot a long long time.
Flown around many parts of the world.
I've never seen a UFO.

But, I do believe ther is other life in our universe.
I believe there is evidence of of extraterrestrial visitations here on Earth.

I've had the opposite experience.
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
Back on topic; "Friendly Canada" is so for a good reason; we welcome everyone! We already have a spaceport as well, so we are ready!
Yeah well, when you guys let an alien in and it crosses our border to commit a terrorist attack, you guys are gonna be <WHOOSH . . . sound of bombs dropping> toast. So be warned. America doesn't take kindly to aliens


















unless they're picking our fruits and vegetables for sub-standard wages.
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Dec 1, 2005, 08:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy
Yeah well, when you guys let an alien in and it crosses our border to commit a terrorist attack, you guys are gonna be <WHOOSH . . . sound of bombs dropping> toast. So be warned. America doesn't take kindly to aliens



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unless they're picking our fruits and vegetables for sub-standard wages.

Damn. our scheme has been uncovered!
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Dec 2, 2005, 04:16 AM
 
If it's an intergalactic war, we're screwed.
If it's an intragalactic war, we're screwed, but might be able to survive.
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