[Obi Wan's Ghost]

What's up with all the lighting, holograms and special effects when it is supposed to be a music (doesn't require special effects and strobes) concert for environmental awareness?

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Xzibit is on stage. I'm sure every car he pimped out with multiple flatscreen monitors, multiple batteries and faster engines were very environmentally friendly.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Now Madonna is singing about how we can change the world. Her ten mansions and world tours use more power than most villages.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Al Gore is making a speech. He has gone all Jedi on us by appearing in hologram form. This is the same Al Gore who has dual 30 inch monitors and a HD screen in his paper filled office btw. All those large screens so he can read the news.

If this hypocrisy continues I fully expect Michael Moore to appear telling us we should eat less.

[design219]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost 

Al Gore ... large screens so he can read the news.

Would it be more environmentally friendly to read a bunch of printed materials? I don't think so. However, I do agree there is much hypocrisy with this concert. Some musicians have spoken out about the waste.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by design219 

Would it be more environmentally friendly to read a bunch of printed materials? I don't think so.

If you saw the photo of Gore's office it is full of printed materials stacked up so high and you can't see a single bare surface. Then you see him sitting there surfing the web on dual 30" monitors and has a 42" plasma turned on that he's not watching. Not exactly sending out the right message.

However, I do agree there is much hypocrisy with this concert. Some musicians have spoken out about the waste.

Biggest critic of this concert has been Bob Geldof himself!

"We are all ****ing conscious of global warming," Bob Geldof claimed charitably this week. "It's just an enormous pop concert or the umpteenth time that, say, Madonna or Coldplay get on stage."

Mark Levine: Why Live Earth Will Fail - Politics on The Huffington Post

[Dakarʒ]

Get to the PL, you.

[besson3c]

Celebrities MacNN (partisan) Republicans are obsessed over:

- Al Gore and family
- Michael Moore
- Paris Hilton
- Cindy Sheehan
- God and Jesus
- Hilary Clinton
- Bill Clinton

You guys of all people should understand the whole economic supply and demand thing. Your demand is keeping the very things alive that you despise.

If you don't like something, don't pay attention to it. Don't buy into the hype. It's as simple as that. If you choose to disregard this suggestion, perhaps you shouldn't whine so fervently about the celebrities you seem unwilling to ignore?

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Celebrities MacNN (partisan) Republicans are obsessed over:

Stay on topic. If you haven't been personally attacked then don't attack others unless you want some back. If you want to take me on we'll go back to how you pretend to know so about Linux, web design, css and Dreamweaver.

Just about everyone knows I'm an Scottish Dubliner and an proud atheist not one of those Republican Americans you attack just because you pidgeon hole them and can't understand them.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost 

Al Gore is making a speech. He has gone all Jedi on us by appearing in hologram form. This is the same Al Gore who has dual 30 inch monitors and a HD screen in his paper filled office btw.

Since when is paper bad for the environment? It's a ****ing renewable, recyclable, biodegradable natural product.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost 

Stay on topic. If you haven't been personally attacked then don't attack others unless you want some back. If you want to take me on we'll go back to how you pretend to know so about Linux, web design, css and Dreamweaver.

Hee hee... Still sore about the Dreamweaver thing? Did you not notice the thread a while back where other people also referred to DW as an old-school 1990s web design app?

You're welcome to continue nurturing your grudge about a thread I literally forgot about, it doesn't bother me. I barely pay attention to your posts anyway.

[design219]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Since when is paper bad for the environment? It's a ****ing renewable, recyclable, biodegradable natural product.

Wow, dude, are you at all familiar with printing processes? In it most common form, It is a nasty business. Making paper is not very clean either. Some paper is recycled, but not that much. It is very difficult to make a bright recycled content paper.

And the only thing natural about paper is that it starts with trees.

[Sherman Homan]

I just saw Duran Duran do "Girls on Film". Now I know the planet needs to be saved!

Maybe the Spice Girls can get back together... I suppose there is no hope for that.

[macroy]

Originally Posted by Sherman Homan 

I just saw Duran Duran do "Girls on Film". Now I know the planet needs to be saved!

Maybe the Spice Girls can get back together... I suppose there is no hope for that.

All you had to do was ask

[jonasmac]

Originally Posted by macroy 

All you had to do was ask

Are these teh end times?

[macfantn]

i slept with a spice girl once back in 98

[starman]

posting from live earth in nj. Not a bad lineup. Having a great time.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by macfantn 

i slept with a spice girl once back in 98

Scary?

[macfantn]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Scary?

no ginger, i used to work backstage at an outdoor ampitheatre.

[Peter]

are you serious?

[Peter]

PS admitting you sleep with a ginger person..

[Sherman Homan]

I hope the Spice Girls really do get back together. When they first came out I really didn't "get" their music. Perhaps it was too subtly nuanced. Now that I am older and wiser, maybe their music will make more sense to me.

[macfantn]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Scary?

Originally Posted by Peter 

are you serious?

ginger was and probably still is a ho

[Doofy]

Live Earth: What a bunch of crap.

Except The Pussycat Dolls. Jessica was exceedingly bouncy today. I like that.

[Lateralus]

Originally Posted by macfantn 

ginger was and probably still is a ho

...I still envy you though.

[Peter]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

Live Earth: What a bunch of crap.

Except The Pussycat Dolls. Jessica was exceedingly bouncy today. I like that.

Lets go for a beer sometime to discuss this, amongst other lounge chit chat

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Peter 

Lets go for a beer sometime to discuss this, amongst other lounge chit chat

We will do this one day.

[Kerrigan]

Live Earth is lame. Who is arrogant and naive enough to think that this concert has any effect on the climate? And when was the last time rock stars had half the cognitive ability to correctly identify the solutions to political and meteorological issues?

[besson3c]

For those interested in info about this event without the usual reactionary commentary:

SOS | Live Earth | 7.7.07

With support from the U.S. Green Building Council, creators of the LEED Green Building Rating System, Live Earth will implement new Green Event Guidelines. All Live Earth venues will be designed and constructed by a team of sustainability engineers who will address the environmental and energy management challenges of each concert site, as well as the operations of sponsors, partners and other Live Earth affiliates. Each venue will not only be designed to maintain a minimum environmental impact, but will showcase the latest state-of-the-art energy efficiency, on-site power generation, and sustainable facilities management practices.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan 

Live Earth is lame. Who is arrogant and naive enough to think that this concert has any effect on the climate? And when was the last time rock stars had half the cognitive ability to correctly identify the solutions to political and meteorological issues?

Couldn't you apply these same arguments to any form of demonstration or protest?

Should we not demonstrate or protest? If so, what kind of Democracy would we have without this?


Man, you guys are real tiresome. I would be absolutely thrilled if some of you could put aside your partisan beliefs and preconceptions you inject into everything you hear about and/or read, and actually bring comments to this forum that aren't simply emotional diatribes and rants.

Coherent arguments are a wonderful thing.

[Chuckit]

It reminds me of this.

And no, you cannot use the same argument for any sort of demonstration or protest. Demonstrations and protests that don't consist of doing exactly what you'd be doing anyway, that actually show some kind of dedication, might have some kind of impact — if you can show that you actually have an idea what you're talking about. This is a bunch of pop singers singing and pop fans listening. Like, ZOMG, am I protesting things right now without even realizing it?

[Dakarʒ]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

It reminds me of this.

Makes me think of McSweeney's.

[starman]

Just got back. Say what you will but it was a LOT of fun. Seeing all those bands at once was great.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Coherent arguments are a wonderful thing.

Well, here's a coherent argument for you then:

- Today's events were supposed to be about raising awareness of global warming.

- Everybody with the capability to view today's events (i.e. a TV) is already aware of global warming, since it's been mentioned on the TV every ten minutes 24/7 for the last year.

Therefore; the whole purpose of today's events was invalid, rendering the whole thing utterly pointless. Aside from Jessica bouncing, of course. I liked that.

[TheWOAT]

I hope the artists involved can feel alot better about themselves after this... Thats the whole point aint it?

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

It reminds me of this.

And no, you cannot use the same argument for any sort of demonstration or protest. Demonstrations and protests that don't consist of doing exactly what you'd be doing anyway, that actually show some kind of dedication, might have some kind of impact — if you can show that you actually have an idea what you're talking about. This is a bunch of pop singers singing and pop fans listening. Like, ZOMG, am I protesting things right now without even realizing it?

It's an awareness concert. It was wrong of me to characterize it as a demonstration of protest, but the objective is sort of the same: to draw attention to the issue in an attempt to spark change.

I just don't have any problems with anything of this sort, especially since they are apparently trying hard to put together this event using renewable energy (whether they actually are or not, I have no idea).

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

Well, here's a coherent argument for you then:

- Today's events were supposed to be about raising awareness of global warming.

- Everybody with the capability to view today's events (i.e. a TV) is already aware of global warming, since it's been mentioned on the TV every ten minutes 24/7 for the last year.

Therefore; the whole purpose of today's events was invalid, rendering the whole thing utterly pointless. Aside from Jessica bouncing, of course. I liked that.

Perhaps the concert was an attempt to try to mobilize people to try to persuade their governments to make changes (as well as to inspire to make some personal changes)?

How effective this sort of thing is I don't know, but I don't see anything wrong with such an effort. Exercising democracy is a good thing.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by TheWOAT 

I hope the artists involved can feel alot better about themselves after this... Thats the whole point aint it?

I'm not sure whether an event like this can truly reach Joe six pack, but like I said, I don't see the harm in trying.

[Jawbone54]

I guarantee you I have a smaller "carbon footprint" than all of those posers...

...and I don't even buy into the global-warming-will-kill-us-in-five-years rubbish.
This post is a ticking time bomb...10...9...8...7...

[cjrivera]

Live Earth is promoting green to save the planet - what planet are they on? | the Daily Mail

[starman]

Oh there was one thing that was a bit wrong. Between groups they played little promo videos. One of them was nothing but 60 seconds of animals taking a dump. It was quite revolting. That's not the way to promote awareness of global warming.

[Dakarʒ]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

I guarantee you I have a smaller "carbon footprint" than all of those posers...

Does Louisiana even have electricity?

I'll just ignore the fact that your posting disproves that hypothesis.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

I guarantee you I have a smaller "carbon footprint" than all of those posers...[/COLOR]

My carbon footprint is probably 1,000,000 times less than Al Gore's competition for the title of Lord Protector of the Planet Earth



We don't need rich schmucks telling us to turn off our lights and listen to their music. We can carry on living the way we do. Technology is getting more eco friendly with time. Just bring on the terra-forming (create new inhabitable land, plant new forests, enrich the oceans by melting glacial ice, etc) and everything will snap in place.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Live Earth is promoting green to save the planet - what planet are they on? | the Daily Mail

The Daily Mail has found that five of the top performing acts together have an annual output of almost 2,000 carbon tonnes. Madonna alone has an annual carbon footprint of 1,018 tonnes, according to John Buckley.


Remember, the average Briton produces just ten tonnes.

[PB2K]

I now have a serieous crush for Alicia Keys

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ 

Does Louisiana even have electricity?

Well sure! There's a generator just outside my trailer.
You're on a roll, aren't you?

[Jawbone54]

OWG...why, why, why did you post that pic of Madonna?

Follow up: when is she going to realize that being 50 kind of takes the allure out of those outfits?

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

Follow up: when is she going to realize that being 50 kind of takes the allure out of those outfits?

Same day she realises that that particular outfit wouldn't be alluring even if Jessica <insert choice of surname> was wearing it.

Mind you, since her target audience is generally into the bum fun, I don't suppose it matters.

Why am I even talking about this? Somebody shoot me.

[robshoy]

I kind of think she looks better than ever now.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by robshoy 

I kind of think she looks better than ever now.

Ban 'im!