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~ The official Tiger buglist (Page 3)
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Apr 25, 2005, 11:02 PM
 
Stray scroll bars continue to appear in �Finder� windows that don't have any more items to show; even after I manually get rid of them, if I log out or switch users, some of those unnecessary scroll bars will come back again and again.

I already mentioned that opening a normal window using Spotlight will turn it to metal for no reason. Well, the same happens if I drag a normal folder to the Dock and I open it from there. Bam, metal.
     
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Apr 25, 2005, 11:58 PM
 
Is anyone finding the open/save boxes taking a looong time to come up?

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Apr 26, 2005, 12:54 AM
 
Open/Save dialogues come up much faster in Tiger for me. Even with the Default Folder side panel attached.
     
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Apr 26, 2005, 12:57 AM
 
I had a perfectly running silent machine.
I installed Tiger on sunday and noticed a beeping coming from the case.

Found out that it's perfectly in sync to the second with the system's digital clock.

Read a few places that it's definetly caused by the power supply but few had any success getting rid of it.

I have been running this cpu since July 04 when I purchased it, on the Highest" setting in the Energy Saver preference panel with no problems.

So I set it back to "Automatic" but the beeping is still there, just a tad quieter but still damn noticable.

Anyone here have this beeping on a G5 before Tiger and managed to get rid of it?
Is it back?
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Apr 26, 2005, 04:28 AM
 
Another one, which is quite appalling since it's just laziness; some of the bundled widgets aren't translated! Obviously it'd be silly to translate the Dictionary or Phonebook widgets, since one only looks up English words and the other doesn't work outside the US. But at least Flight Tracker, Weather and Stock should have been translated.
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Apr 26, 2005, 06:19 AM
 
Originally Posted by Evinyatar
Another one, which is quite appalling since it's just laziness; some of the bundled widgets aren't translated! Obviously it'd be silly to translate the Dictionary or Phonebook widgets, since one only looks up English words and the other doesn't work outside the US. But at least Flight Tracker, Weather and Stock should have been translated.
Not only the Dictionary widget, but the Dictionary application isn't translated, too. As it seems that it could support other dictionary as plug-ins, it would have been wise to localize it! How much time would have taken to localize such a tiny app?
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Apr 26, 2005, 06:21 AM
 
Yeah I think it is a lack of attention to detail to have some widgets non-translated.

I can confirm thought that airport reception has become dramatically better with Tiger on my old iBook 600. Most incredible.

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Apr 26, 2005, 07:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani
Yeah I think it is a lack of attention to detail to have some widgets non-translated.

I can confirm thought that airport reception has become dramatically better with Tiger on my old iBook 600. Most incredible.
The first part is not lack of attention, it's lack of engineering

The second point is rather weird ... but as long is it works
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Apr 26, 2005, 10:28 AM
 
Originally Posted by mAxximo
Oh, the usual zombies insulting me because I don't drool over Apple products or jerk off over a photo of Steve Jobs like they do...
I thought you guys would stay away from any thread where any faults in OS X could be found and openly talked about...
You totally have this all wrong. We aren't undead. We just pray to the all-mighty Steve Jobs, while burning copies of 10.4 on the sacrificial altar. Unfortunately, since we have given up our most prized possession to Steve God, we are unable to give useful input to this discussion. Also, we witnessed the death of OS 9, so anyone worshipping a dead OS is clearly collaborating with the evil of the dead. These people must be tortured and slowly beheaded with a plastic spork.


Seriously. It's just a small portion of a consumer-driven society. We accept that. Why can't you? You are praising a product that has been discontinued and hasn't been shipping for years. We accept that the new product makes us more efficient than the old product, and we therefore are able to put up with minor flaws, since it fixed the major flaws of the old product. We have come to terms with the fact that the world has change. We are capable of change, and most of us MUCH prefer the new product over the old one. Now, there's a product that's coming out on Friday... that product is brand spanking new, and therefore, there are some kinks that need to be worked out. Some of us will stay with the previous product for a little bit until the major bugs of the newest product are found and fixed.


Posts like yours show what you REALLY think, and that's why no one respects your opinion. You didn't have to insult us like this to tell us what you think... we already know.
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Apr 26, 2005, 10:38 AM
 
So there's these drones openly insulting me because they can't digest my opinions on a commercial product but instead you decide to take offense at my little backlash post. Good job, �moderator�.
     
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Apr 26, 2005, 10:47 AM
 
I digested your 'opinions' just fine, and posted my impression of them. You, however, insulted everyone who disagreed with you and a moderator responded. Boohoo. Perhaps you should limit your posts to when you have a point instead of merely rehashing the same stuff time and time again. How many forums have to tell you you're wrong before you accept it?
     
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Apr 26, 2005, 10:52 AM
 
Originally Posted by Thinine
I digested your 'opinions' just fine, and posted my impression of them. You, however, insulted everyone who disagreed with you and a moderator responded. Boohoo. Perhaps you should limit your posts to when you have a point instead of merely rehashing the same stuff time and time again. How many forums have to tell you you're wrong before you accept it?
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Apr 26, 2005, 11:12 AM
 
Originally Posted by Thinine
I digested your 'opinions' just fine, and posted my impression of them. You, however, insulted everyone who disagreed with you and a moderator responded. Boohoo. Perhaps you should limit your posts to when you have a point instead of merely rehashing the same stuff time and time again. How many forums have to tell you you're wrong before you accept it?
So you dumping on the thread and calling me a �stupid� is �posting your impression� but me calling you a zombie is �insulting everyone�. LOL. What a stupid.
     
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Apr 26, 2005, 11:27 AM
 
Originally Posted by mAxximo
So you dumping on the thread and calling me a �stupid� is �posting your impression� but me calling you a zombie is �insulting everyone�. LOL. What a stupid.
No, you are trolling, plain and simple, trying to impress your fellow OS 9 refugees at Thalo. That's why no one respects your less-than-objective rants. I'm sure the general consensus is that hopefully once you reach high school age and your hormones finally kick in, you'll stop spending all your time here crying and wringing your hands over your dead platform.
     
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Apr 26, 2005, 11:31 AM
 
Originally Posted by hellmachine
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This is caused by having a different version of Helvetica Neue installed. It happens with the iCal dock icon in 10.3 as well. My solution was to uninstall my copy and use an opentype version instead. Just remember to keep the one that comes with OS X.
     
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Apr 26, 2005, 12:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by xi_hyperon
No, you are trolling, plain and simple, trying to impress your fellow OS 9 refugees at Thalo. That's why no one respects your less-than-objective rants. I'm sure the general consensus is that hopefully once you reach high school age and your hormones finally kick in, you'll stop spending all your time here crying and wringing your hands over your dead platform.
However, for someone which such low respect as you think I have, you seem overly worried that others could actually agree with my points. You are spending all your time here trying to discredit me, fearing that some of my opinions could get across. Brrrrrr!

Personally, I prefer to leave people who I think are idiots alone. They are better at discrediting themselves that any silly intent you may try to pull off.
     
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Apr 26, 2005, 12:16 PM
 
Alright, enough already, back on topic.

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Apr 26, 2005, 12:26 PM
 
No flaming, please. Otherwise I might have to close this thread.
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Apr 26, 2005, 10:03 PM
 
iCal has some weirdness, when changing an item from timed event to all-day event. The even-worse bugginess from Panther has been fixed, but not fixed quite right. Just some rough edges in Tiger I think.

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Apr 26, 2005, 10:51 PM
 
When logging out of iChat the "Buddy Availability" status in Mail stays green for whichever buddy was available just before logging out.

With a quick check in Activity Monitor it shows "iChatAgent (Not Responding)" even though I quit the application.

Finder seems "sticky" for lack of a better word.

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Apr 26, 2005, 11:39 PM
 
if you have the iSync menubar icon visible and don't have a .mac account, you can't access the "sync now" feature on that menu to synchronize your information with your bluetooth phone, it only gives you access to sync w/.mac


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Apr 27, 2005, 03:57 AM
 
I keep finding these things... in Automator when you try to download files it fails if you're behind a proxy. Apparently it calls curl to fetch these and doesn't pass the proxy settings. Why it doesn't use CF for this is beyond me.
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Apr 27, 2005, 09:17 AM
 
This one is weird...in Safari, choose Print and click the PDF button/menu. Save as PDF is not available. Save PDF as Postscript, and Fax PDF are, but that's it.

It works from Omniweb and other apps, just not Safari.
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 09:26 AM
 
On my machine, I've been having problems with the "Input" menu extra. At first, the only menu item that appeared in it was "Open International..." So I opened up the International System Preferences and unticked and reticked some of the tick boxes, and I could get the language selector to appear in the menu (you know; the items with the flags next to them), but not the "Show Character Palette" menu item. So then I just removed the menu extra altogether, then went to /System/Library/Core Services/Menu Extras/ and dragged TextInput.menu up to the menu bar, and now the menu itself has all the items it should �*the languages I want, "Show Character Palette", and "Open International..." � but there's no icon for it in the menu bar. It doesn't matter which language I select; the icon just isn't there. I can click the space where it's supposed to be, and the menu drops down properly, but there's just no icon.

Here's what I mean:

     
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Apr 27, 2005, 09:37 AM
 
Originally Posted by johnt519
This one is weird...in Safari, choose Print and click the PDF button/menu. Save as PDF is not available. Save PDF as Postscript, and Fax PDF are, but that's it.

It works from Omniweb and other apps, just not Safari.
Save as PDF... available here
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 10:29 AM
 
Originally Posted by johnt519
This one is weird...in Safari, choose Print and click the PDF button/menu. Save as PDF is not available. Save PDF as Postscript, and Fax PDF are, but that's it.

It works from Omniweb and other apps, just not Safari.
Hmm. Still not available for me.

I do see something else. When I choose Print, it takes several seconds for the Print sheet to display - so much so that the spinning cursor appears. I checked the error log (/var/log/cups/error_log) and I see this each time I open the Print dialog:

W [27/Apr/2005:10:26:09 -0400] emptyReceivePort: mach_msg send returns: (ipc/send) invalid destination port


errr??
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 10:35 AM
 
Bugs that I have found with my system loaded with Tiger (System Dual 800 with 1.5 Gig of RAM) are the following:

Camino, when it is already open and you click in it again it should bring up a new window yet does not. Mozilla seems to be acting strange as it will not allow download from some sites yet when I use Explorer it works well. Also this is true with Camino as well. WindowShade 5.3 does not work at all I miss that one.

Great news The "Disk Utility" works faster on fixing permissions than any other that I have used. FCP, DVD SP 3.0, Photoshop CS, and Illustrator CS my main applications work great. Microsoft Office is sluggish in typing and trying to get to other parts of a document.

Now the best news I am able to open a folder that has more than 1,000 files and it takes no longer than a second or two to load. Before I would have to wait up to a minutes with some folders that had 2,000 pictures.
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 10:41 AM
 
Originally Posted by alephOne
On my machine, I've been having problems with the "Input" menu extra. At first, the only menu item that appeared in it was "Open International..." So I opened up the International System Preferences and unticked and reticked some of the tick boxes, and I could get the language selector to appear in the menu (you know; the items with the flags next to them), but not the "Show Character Palette" menu item. So then I just removed the menu extra altogether, then went to /System/Library/Core Services/Menu Extras/ and dragged TextInput.menu up to the menu bar, and now the menu itself has all the items it should �*the languages I want, "Show Character Palette", and "Open International..." � but there's no icon for it in the menu bar. It doesn't matter which language I select; the icon just isn't there. I can click the space where it's supposed to be, and the menu drops down properly, but there's just no icon.

Here's what I mean:

Well whattaya know? A reboot was all it needed.
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 11:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by daydream
Camino, when it is already open and you click in it again it should bring up a new window yet does not. Mozilla seems to be acting strange as it will not allow download from some sites yet when I use Explorer it works well. Also this is true with Camino as well. WindowShade 5.3 does not work at all I miss that one.
This thread isn't about 3rd party apps not working like they should. There is a separate thread for that.

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Apr 27, 2005, 11:25 AM
 
Originally Posted by johnt519
Hmm. Still not available for me.

I do see something else. When I choose Print, it takes several seconds for the Print sheet to display - so much so that the spinning cursor appears. I checked the error log (/var/log/cups/error_log) and I see this each time I open the Print dialog:

W [27/Apr/2005:10:26:09 -0400] emptyReceivePort: mach_msg send returns: (ipc/send) invalid destination port


errr??

Printing is impossible on my system, too. Really, everything seems broken. Not even Adobe PDF 7.01 works � can't do PDFs anymore! Argh!

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Apr 27, 2005, 11:31 AM
 
On my dual G5 2 Ghz (Rev. A), any disc that is loaded in the internal Superdrive gets STUCK and cannot be ejected. When I drag'n'drop the discs icon to the dock eject, the disc icon disappears from the Desktop but the disc won't come out.

What's even worse is that the G5 won't re-boot, nor shut down!! I have to hard reset every time I want to use another disc! Upon inspection of the "top" command in Terminal, I see that 1 process is "Stuck". The "ps aux" command reveals that it is the "/sbin/umount /Volumes/Mac OS X Install DVD" that is stuck. I guess this stuck process is what hinders the system from shutting down or re-booting.

The "lock-up" only seems to occur after the display energy saver (in the Energy Saver prefs pane) has been activated (after 15 mins in inactivity) and the display awoken. Computer is set to "Never" sleep, and hard disks to sleep "when possible". No screen saver active.

First, I thought it was due to a "bad OS install", so I tried making a new user account. Problem still there. Then, to be 100% sure, I tried to make a fresh install on my second hard drive. Problem still there. The bug's 100% re-producable.

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Apr 27, 2005, 11:35 AM
 
Originally Posted by johnt519
Hmm. Still not available for me.

I do see something else. When I choose Print, it takes several seconds for the Print sheet to display - so much so that the spinning cursor appears. I checked the error log (/var/log/cups/error_log) and I see this each time I open the Print dialog:

W [27/Apr/2005:10:26:09 -0400] emptyReceivePort: mach_msg send returns: (ipc/send) invalid destination port


errr??
Print to PDF is back now. I quit and relaunched Safari and all is good.

I'm still seeing those warnings though. I am able to print, but the delay in opening the Print dialog sheet is a bit unnerving...
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 01:38 PM
 
Dashboard Weather Widget does not play well with International users.

E.g.: I get Montreal, WI by default (I'm in Montr�al, Qu�bec) and I can't get the weather widget to display my city's temp. (even by manually switching the city)

Edit: I put "Montreal, Canada" and pressed enter and it worked!!!
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 02:16 PM
 
Ya same goes for TORONTO which it should have known on its own is in Canada as it gets TORONTO out of the time zone panel. I had to add ONTARIO before it showed the correct weather.

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Apr 27, 2005, 08:30 PM
 
I selected 15 jpegs and right-clicked on them to select �Slideshow�. Tiger took 8 seconds and a beachball to display the contextual menu. Tried other folders, same thing. I need to know if this is happening to somebody else. TIA.
     
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NSLevelIndicator is bloody slow...
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 09:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by mAxximo
I selected 15 jpegs and right-clicked on them to select �Slideshow�. Tiger took 8 seconds and a beachball to display the contextual menu. Tried other folders, same thing. I need to know if this is happening to somebody else. TIA.
No. I selected 35 JPEGs and the contextual menu was instantaneous and it took about 4 seconds for the slideshow to start and there was no beach ball. And this was on my iBook 500.
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Apr 27, 2005, 10:17 PM
 
Crap. I restarted one thousand times and it's still taking 7-10 seconds to display the @#$%^ contextual menu. It's almost instant if I just select one item. If it's two or more it starts to lag accordingly. Grrrrrr.
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 10:22 PM
 
What's up with the new Safari "error" pages? Try going to an bad website (www.blahblahblah.com) and you'll see what I mean... I wonder if there's a way to get the old error sheets back?
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 10:37 PM
 
Mail.app sucks. It disconnects all the time. Strange rendering. Taking forever to "download" attachments (when they should get downloaded right away). Taking an eternity to load a message. Thumbs down. Too bad because the search is fantastic.
     
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Apr 27, 2005, 11:25 PM
 
Safari:

ex. Typing "google" would take me to http://www.google.com/


This no longer works in Tiger. Is this an isolated problem, or are other people really getting annoyed with this missing feature?
     
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Apr 28, 2005, 12:30 AM
 
Originally Posted by MOTHERWELL
Safari:

ex. Typing "google" would take me to http://www.google.com/


This no longer works in Tiger. Is this an isolated problem, or are other people really getting annoyed with this missing feature?
Hmm... works fine for me...
     
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Apr 28, 2005, 12:37 AM
 
For those of you with these issues, did you:

(a) Upgrade and install
(b) Archive and install w/User & Network settings
(c) Archive and install w/o User & Network settings
(d) Erase and install

?

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D. Erased everything.
     
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Apr 28, 2005, 01:13 AM
 
Installed for the first time in a partition with just network settings.
     
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Apr 28, 2005, 02:35 AM
 
Originally Posted by johnt519
What's up with the new Safari "error" pages? Try going to an bad website (www.blahblahblah.com) and you'll see what I mean... I wonder if there's a way to get the old error sheets back?
You liked the sheets? They required interaction before you could type the correct URL - now you can just type away
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Apr 28, 2005, 03:04 AM
 
Originally Posted by JLL
You liked the sheets? They required interaction before you could type the correct URL - now you can just type away
The new Safari error is 1000x better than the sheets. For the love of god, if that ever bounces again just because I typed the URL wrong... %#*@*!

Oh, and one really cool thing I noticed about Safari, usually, I open my iBook and go right to a few web pages. More often then not, I was greeted by that #(@# sheet because the wireless hadn't picked up yet. But now, I'm greeted with a nice page saying that my network connection is down and gives me a button to open the network diagnostics tool. On top of that, when the wireless does come up, all the pages I tried to load pick up where they left off instead of me having to reload them all. It's smart, I like that.
     
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Apr 28, 2005, 03:34 AM
 
Originally Posted by Jernberg
On my dual G5 2 Ghz (Rev. A), any disc that is loaded in the internal Superdrive gets STUCK and cannot be ejected. When I drag'n'drop the discs icon to the dock eject, the disc icon disappears from the Desktop but the disc won't come out.


First, I thought it was due to a "bad OS install", so I tried making a new user account. Problem still there. Then, to be 100% sure, I tried to make a fresh install on my second hard drive. Problem still there. The bug's 100% re-producable.

This you are suggesting is a Tiger bug? I'm confused too, you haven't clearly said what circumstances it does work under, and if whether or not you've ruled out the hardware or media because that's what it sounds like. You did a fresh install of what, Tiger, on your second hard drive? What about if you replace it with Panther, how does it work then?
     
 
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