[funkysmurf]

Hello,

i recently purchased a dual 2.5 G5.

For some reason it froze on me 3 times, and every time a screen comes up and says you need to restart the computer (in different languages).

This has happened with the pre-installed OS. Since the first two freezes i updated to 10.3.8 and it still froze today.

This is some of what the log contains:

71964. 74 AppleUSBOHCI[0x24c3800]::CreateGeneralTransfer - trying to queue to a stalled pipe
Feb 28 17:34:58 endres-Computer kernel: USBF: 71964. 74 AppleUSBOHCI[0x24c3800]:oIOTransfer - error 0xe000404f queueing request
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost syslogd: restart
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost syslogd: kernel boot file is /mach_kernel
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: standard timeslicing quantum is 10000 us
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: vm_page_bootstrap: 375774 free pages
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: mig_table_max_displ = 68
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: IOKit Component Version 7.8:
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: Wed Dec 22 14:23:55 PST 2004; root(rcbuilder):RELEASE_PPC/iokit/RELEASE
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: 94 prelinked modules
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel:
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: using 3932 buffer headers and 3932 cluster IO buffer headers
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: DART enabled
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: MacRISC4CPU: publishing BootCPU
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: Local FireWire GUID = 0xd93ff:0xfe5a8486
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: Security auditing service present
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: BSM auditing present
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: From path: "/ht/pci@7/k2-sata-root/k2-sata@0/disk@0:3,\mach_kernel", Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOPathMatch</key><string ID="1">IODeviceTree:/ht/pci@7/k2-sata-root/k2-sata@0/@0:3</string></dict>
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: Got boot device = IOService:/MacRISC4PE/ht@0,f2000000/AppleMacRiscHT/pci@7/IOPCI2PCIBridge/k2-sata-root@C/AppleK2SATARoot/k2-sata@0/AppleK2SATA/ATADeviceNub@0/IOATABlockStorageDriver/IOATABlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStorageDriver/ST3160023AS Media/IOApplePartitionScheme/Untitled@3
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: BSD root: disk0s3, major 14, minor 2
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: jnl: replay_journal: from: 4520960 to: 3304960 (joffset 0x8601000)
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: Jettisoning kernel linker.
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kernel: Resetting IOCatalogue.
Feb 28 21:43:09 localhost kextd[83]: registering service "com.apple.KernelExtensionServer"
Feb 28 21:43:11 localhost kernel: Matching service count = 0
Feb 28 21:43:12 localhost kernel: AppleRS232Serial: 0 0 AppleRS232Serial::start - returning false early, Connector or machine incorrect
Feb 28 21:43:12 localhost kernel: IOPlatformControl::registerDriver Control Driver AppleSlewClock did not supply target-value, using default
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost kernel: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:0d:93:5a:84:86
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost kernel: IOFireWireIP: FireWire address 00:0d:93:ff:fe:5a:84:86
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost lookupd[104]: lookupd (version 324.11) starting - Mon Feb 28 21:43:17 2005
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost SystemStarter: Welcome to Macintosh.
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost diskarbitrationd[86]: disk0s3 hfs 83CFB05E-7D7E-3465-8110-9CF6C25DA6A9 Macintosh HD /
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting timed execution services
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost SystemStarter: Starting timed execution services
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting SecurityServer
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost ConsoleMessage: Initializing network
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting kernel event agent
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting Apple Multicast DNS Responder
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost SystemStarter: Starting SecurityServer
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost SystemStarter: Initializing network
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost SystemStarter: Starting kernel event agent
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost SystemStarter: Starting Apple Multicast DNS Responder
Feb 28 21:43:17 localhost mDNSResponder[157]: mDNSResponder-58.8 (Apr 24 2004 20:38:40) starting
Feb 28 21:43:18 localhost configd[85]: executing /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/Kicker.bundle/Contents/Resources/set-hostname
Feb 28 21:43:18 localhost set-hostname[179]: setting hostname to endres-Computer.local
Feb 28 21:43:22 localhost kernel: ATY,Whelk_A: vram [a0000000:08000000]
Feb 28 21:43:22 localhost kernel: ATY,Whelk_B: vram [a0000000:08000000]
Feb 28 21:43:22 localhost SystemStarter: The "HasShadow" window property is obsolete. Use CGSSetWindowShadowAndRimParameters(cid, wid, 0.0,0.0, 0,0, CGSNoShadowStyle) to turn off the window shadow instead. Set a break-point on CGSLogMessage to find out where this property is set.
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost ConsoleMessage: Checking disks
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost ConsoleMessage: Loading Shared IP extension
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost /usr/libexec/panicdump: Error (-1) setting variable - 'aapl,panic-info'
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost SystemStarter: crash reporter (203) did not complete successfully.
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting printing services
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost syslogd: /dev/console: Input/output error
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost init: kernel security level changed from 0 to 1
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost ConsoleMessage: Loading IP Firewall extension
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost kernel: IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging disabled
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost kernel: IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging disabled
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost kernel: IP firewall loaded
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting internet services
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost SystemStarter: The following StartupItems failed to properly start:
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost SystemStarter: /System/Library/StartupItems/CrashReporter
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost SystemStarter: - execution of Startup script failed
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost SystemStarter:
Feb 28 21:43:23 localhost xinetd[247]: 247 {init_services} no services. Exiting...
Feb 28 21:43:24 localhost loginwindow[227]: Sent launch request message to DirectoryService mach_init port
Feb 28 21:43:24 localhost DirectoryService[251]: Launched version 1.8.2 (v257.1)
aped[170]: Attach denied: super-user process, for SecurityAgent[253]
Feb 28 21:43:27 localhost mach_init[2]: Server 0 in bootstrap d03 uid 0: "/usr/libexec/fix_prebinding": exited with non-zero status 1 [pid 261]
Feb 28 21:43:48 localhost kernel: UniNEnet::monitorLinkStatus - Link is up at 10 Mbps - Half Duplex
Feb 28 21:43:48 localhost pppd[269]: pppd 2.4.2b1 started by root, uid 0
Feb 28 21:43:48 localhost kernel: PPPoE domain init
Feb 28 21:43:48 localhost pppd[269]: PPPoE connecting to service '' [access concentrator '']...
Feb 28 21:43:52 localhost pppd[269]: PPPoE connection established.
Feb 28 21:43:52 localhost kernel: pppoe_wan_attach, link index = 0, (ld = 0x2a7d304)
Feb 28 21:43:52 localhost pppd[269]: Using interface ppp0
Feb 28 21:43:52 localhost pppd[269]: Connect: ppp0 <--> socket[34:16]
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost pppd[269]: local IP address 220.245.79.17
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost pppd[269]: remote IP address 202.7.162.90
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost pppd[269]: primary DNS address 203.12.160.35
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost pppd[269]: secondary DNS address 203.12.160.36
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost configd[85]: executing /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/Kicker.bundle/Contents/Resources/set-hostname
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost configd[85]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost configd[85]: executing /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/Kicker.bundle/Contents/Resources/enable-network
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost mach_init[2]: Server 0 in bootstrap d03 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd": exited as a result of signal 1 [pid 104]
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost lookupd[276]: lookupd (version 324.11) starting - Mon Feb 28 21:43:54 2005
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting network time synchronization
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost ntpdate[293]: ntpdate [email protected] Fri Sep 12 18:30:10 PDT 2003 (1)
Feb 28 21:43:54 localhost set-hostname[300]: setting hostname to endres-Computer.local
Feb 28 21:43:56 localhost ntpdate[293]: step time server 17.82.254.10 offset 0.779959 sec
Feb 28 21:43:56 localhost ntpd[303]: ntpd [email protected] Fri Sep 12 18:30:03 PDT 2003 (1)
Feb 28 21:43:56 localhost ntpd[303]: precision = 7 usec
Feb 28 21:43:56 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting network file system
Feb 28 21:43:57 localhost automount[330]: automount version 57
Feb 28 21:43:57 localhost automount[333]: automount version 57


Could anyone help me track down the problem?

Thanks

[Detrius]

Start by running the Apple Hardware Test that came with your computer. You may have bad RAM.

[Turias]

Also, I'm not sure if they have fixed it yet, but are you running Azureus? It used to give dual G5s kernel panic after kernel panic.

[funkysmurf]

Hi,

i ran the extended hardware test and everything passed. Also im not sure what Azureus is so i'm assuming i'm not running it?

Thanks

[Tyre MacAdmin]

Have you tried to do a fresh install?

Did you install *any* new software? You might have to go about this from the ground up...

Did you get the KP message while doing anything similar?

Have you installed any third party "haxies" or "helper applications"?

You should make a list here and post all the stuff you have done and added to your system. A list could help single down the issue.

[funkysmurf]

Hello,

i did have ClearDock APE installed but did a bit of reading and it was suggested that i remove that so i did that 2 days ago. I haven't had a freeze since, but if it happens again i will remove all non "stock" software one by one until my last option becomes an OS re-install.

So far i've installed:
ClearDock (now removed)
MS Office
Toast 6 Titanium
EyeTv
Transmit
MPlayer OS X 2
BitTorrent
PictureScaler
Fire

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see how things go without cleardock and work from there. Fingers crossed.

Cheers

[Tyre MacAdmin]

haxies for some reason can be troublesome on some machines. My bet is that's what it is... if you don't get any more KP's I would suggest emailing the maker to see if there is some reason they know of why it would not work correctly on your system. If you still get hangs you might want to see if they happen while doing the same thing on your computer.

[Detrius]

Here's some more info:

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=248286

[funkysmurf]

Hello,

well i still haven't had a crash since. I'm not exactly sure why but here's the panic log: http://users.tpg.com.au/djvibez/PanicLog.html

I read that info, and it seems to have been some sort of driver issue as i can't see a manufacturer name.

Maybe some of you more experienced people can shed some light on this. Either way i'm just happy i'm not getting any problems.

Thanks

[funkysmurf]

I spoke too soon

I've had another 3 kernel panics. All logs are identical, and all have happened while eyetv was running for a while.

I tried uninstalling the eyetv software, updating it...nothing seems to help. Even reset the PMU, permission repairs etc. No idea what's going on.

Could someone help?

[Vi0]

Originally posted by funkysmurf:
I spoke too soon

I've had another 3 kernel panics. All logs are identical, and all have happened while eyetv was running for a while.

I tried uninstalling the eyetv software, updating it...nothing seems to help. Even reset the PMU, permission repairs etc. No idea what's going on.

Could someone help?

You have defective hardware. Either ram or motherboard. The hardware test software isn't very good. Test the ram by putting one stick at a time in. If it continues to freeze, it is the motherboard.

Don't waste very much time trying to fix yourself. That's why you bought an Apple in the first place. Call up whomever you bought this G5 from and demand a refund because you didn't spend thousands of dollars for defective hardware.

Hope this helps.

[Webscreamer]

Originally posted by Vi0:
You have defective hardware. Either ram or motherboard. The hardware test software isn't very good. Test the ram by putting one stick at a time in. If it continues to freeze, it is the motherboard.

You need to have the G5 running in pairs of ram.

[Moderator]

I'd wipe and reinstall the system software.

Having said that....we had a dual 2.0 that had freezing problems..basically would freeze and the fan would start running full speed....anyway this happened from day one and 9 months later after countless attempts to fix it..its still doing it.

In this case it was clearly a hardware problem and the G5 should've been replaced...it wasn't and now we have a giant metal paper weight because the thing is useless.

If it does it with the default set up..start trying to get a new one before its too late

[funkysmurf]

Well i guess i've been lucky in a way. I took out the apple supplied ram, and left only a couple of sticks of my own in there. I'm not sure why i didn't try this earlier, guess after a few software RAM tests i ruled bad RAM out. I suppose the CD Hardware Test and Memtest have their limitations.

When processor setting was set to highest, i could get my machine to KP pretty much under an hour when running EyeTv. On automatic it would take longer.

Since i've taken the RAM out i've been running EyeTv for over 48hrs straight on processor setting set to highest with no problems.

Apple have said i can take the RAM sticks to a service centre to have them replaced so looks like i can keep the G5

Cheers for all suggestions

[DeathToWindows]

it might be worth a try to do a NVRAM reset

hold down apple-option-o-f during boot

you'll get a Command Line Interface

type the following

reset-nvram
set-defaults
reset-all

Your G5 will then reboot. This is almost ALWAYS worth a try... but it's a software fix...

[Grantx2]

I got my G5 single 1.8 in April last year. I took it in got new memory and they said it would be fine. But it wasn't. Just latly I got the Temperature monitor after refomating my computer. I found that my computer freezes when it gets around 123 F. So I was wondering if I got a liquid cooling system would that keep it below? Or should I just complain that I spent all this $ on a shitty computer?