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Eug Wanker · Oct 25, 2004, 02:54 PM

ThinkSecret: International iTunes Music Stores

BTW, iTunes no longer allows me to browse any of the iTMS stores.

dtriska · Oct 25, 2004, 02:56 PM

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/...25123347.shtml

I've been hoping for a while that the rumoured November 26 date was the right day, and the wrong month.

fhoubi · Oct 25, 2004, 03:11 PM

Well it it almost sure it will be available tomorrow in the Netherlands. Today I cannot pass/choose the four countries icons in iTunes anymore!

Landos Mustache · Oct 25, 2004, 03:30 PM

Store or not, I am still not paying to download compressed music when I can get it legally for free of P2P.

Logic · Oct 25, 2004, 03:32 PM

I was trying to browse the stores yesterday but it wouldn't let me.

Please, please let iTMS come to Iceland tomorrow!!!!!!

Judge_Fire · Oct 25, 2004, 03:35 PM

Fingers crossed for Finland.

U2 being on stage should indicate Ireland getting a store, I guess.

J

fhoubi · Oct 25, 2004, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Store or not, I am still not paying to download compressed music when I can get it legally for free of P2P.

In my opinion ALL digital music is compressed. For sure you have never listened to a SME (Series) 30.

icruise · Oct 25, 2004, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Store or not, I am still not paying to download compressed music when I can get it legally for free of P2P.

What music can you get legally for free that you would have to pay for on iTMS?

Landos Mustache · Oct 25, 2004, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Icruise:
What music can you get legally for free that you would have to pay for on iTMS?

Downloading music though file sharing is not illegal in Canada. So anything really.

Eug Wanker · Oct 25, 2004, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Downloading music though file sharing is not illegal in Canada. So anything really.

It's a bit of prickly issue, as you might expect.

Downloading for personal use is not YET illegal in Canada. However uploading files IS illegal. A lot of files on those MP3 sites have been illegally uploaded. Plus, presumably, you can only download from other Canadians.

More importantly, P2P is a big PITA IMO.

OTOH, I'd be more inclined to build up an iTMS collection if the files were 192 kbps. Or 160 at least. I'm not overly fond of 128. It's OK for an iPod, but I'd rather just go to the store and buy the CD. (I rip stuff at 256 MP3 or 192 AAC.)

I am still looking forward to the iTMS though, because it's a hellulot easier to check out new music with it. eg. Use the iTMS 30 second previews, with a purchased song here and there. If I like them, then I run out and buy the CD. So for most music I'll still be using CDs, but for hard to get CDs, I can just use the iTMS if I'm in a rush.

Landos Mustache · Oct 25, 2004, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
It's a bit of prickly issue, as you might expect.

Downloading for personal use is not YET illegal in Canada. However uploading files IS illegal. A lot of files on those MP3 sites have been illegally uploaded. Plus, presumably, you can only download from other Canadians.

Ya well the main point is 12 year old girls are not being sued up here for downloading one britney spears song.

Eug Wanker · Oct 25, 2004, 04:53 PM

So, if it does happen... price?

CAD$0.99 would be good, and CAD$1.09 would be acceptable. CAD$1.19 seems a bit high.

Mind you, US$0.99 is worth CAD$1.21 at the moment.

Mac Write · Oct 25, 2004, 07:40 PM

It has been confirmed no iTMS Canada or Austria tomorrow, this is from Apple themselves. On the iPod pages for Apple Store Canada, and Austria, there is no info on iTunes, while Sweden, Japan, etc all have info on iTMS. I was only going to download the free stuff form iTMS (free song of week, free speeches etc) I prefer quality and CD is the best at present (I live for the day that 192khz music comes to the public, until then 44.4khz will have to do).

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 25, 2004, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Mac Write:
It has been confirmed no iTMS Canada or Austria tomorrow, this is from Apple themselves. On the iPod pages for Apple Store Canada, and Austria, there is no info on iTunes, while Sweden, Japan, etc all have info on iTMS

Is that all you are going on?

Eug Wanker · Oct 25, 2004, 07:52 PM

Heh. I just watched one of the Japanese iPod ads: "Goodbye MD"

Mac Write · Oct 25, 2004, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Is that all you are going on?

Yes considering we can get straight it now with no loop (just the no store message), Also at least 5+ other countries have the iTMS message on the iPod page....that aren't the 3 EU or US stores.

Eug Wanker · Oct 25, 2004, 08:09 PM

The 4 stores are working for me now, too. Hmm...

ironknee · Oct 25, 2004, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Heh. I just watched one of the Japanese iPod ads: "Goodbye MD"

new japanese ad? where?

Eug Wanker · Oct 25, 2004, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by ironknee:
new japanese ad? where?

English song, but ad for Japan. It seems the only major difference is they specifically put "Goodbye MD" in there.

http://www.apple.com/jp/ipod/ads/sterio_rock/

dtriska · Oct 25, 2004, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Downloading for personal use is not YET illegal in Canada. However uploading files IS illegal. A lot of files on those MP3 sites have been illegally uploaded. Plus, presumably, you can only download from other Canadians.

Yup. In case anyone's curious about this, here's the court ruling and here's the Heritage Minister's response. The promised legislation is supposed to go through this fall (although I can't find it online). Whether it makes it, or any number of minority government headaches draws attention to more pressing matters, we'll have to wait and see.

Mac Write · Oct 25, 2004, 11:25 PM

Someone over at Mac Rumors Forums found a link on the Akamai server's for an image showing 12 stores to launch tomorrow.

News is changing by the minute. This is super tense (even though I will never use the iTMS for buying music). CD's are so dirt cheap are NO RESTRICTIONS

Eug Wanker · Oct 25, 2004, 11:32 PM

w00t!

ironknee · Oct 25, 2004, 11:34 PM

cool

wataru · Oct 25, 2004, 11:35 PM

Sweet! I got a credit card here specifically so I can use the Japan store. I hope it's not just American crap on there.

Eug Wanker · Oct 25, 2004, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
w00t!

FAKE!

Mac Write · Oct 25, 2004, 11:59 PM

DAMMIT no iTMS Canada

PurpleGiant · Oct 26, 2004, 12:04 AM

Number 1

Eug Wanker · Oct 26, 2004, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by PurpleGiant:

Number 1

Numba One!

PurpleGiant · Oct 26, 2004, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Numba One!

That's even better than iTMS in Australia!

Daracle · Oct 26, 2004, 08:54 AM

So, it is still not here yet?

Eug · Oct 26, 2004, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by Daracle:
So, it is still not here yet?

The announcement (whatever it may be) begins 4 hours from now.

MilkmanDan · Oct 26, 2004, 09:07 AM

Japan wants ITMS. You know, to beat the tar out of MS Music store, which only has 50,000 songs.

Theres a reason that the iPod is the #1 mp3 player in Japan.

DeathToWindows · Oct 26, 2004, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
w00t!

3vil bastard

turtle777 · Oct 26, 2004, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
FAKE!

*lol*

Could have told you right away. Mexico, of all places !

-t

Landos Mustache · Oct 26, 2004, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by turtle777:
*lol*

Could have told you right away. Mexico, of all places !

-t

Ya donkeys with built in MP3 players

Jan Van Boghout · Oct 26, 2004, 11:46 AM

Belgium is in, the iTMS is now mentioned in the Apple Store iPod pages. Everyone check theirs out!

turtle777 · Oct 26, 2004, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Ya donkeys with built in MP3 players

iDonkey ?

-t

Eug · Oct 26, 2004, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Ya donkeys with built in MP3 players

Mafia · Oct 26, 2004, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by turtle777:
iDonkey ?

Powaqqatsi · Oct 26, 2004, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Jan Van Boghout:
Belgium is in, the iTMS is now mentioned in the Apple Store iPod pages. Everyone check theirs out!

Woot, I just checked it out. I'm not buying tho

. I want hardware (CD's) or free songs. Not paying for crap I can't touch, ever.
Well maybe 1 song, just to support Apple. Only �0.99

EDIT: apple.com doesn't mention it tough.

Ambassadeur · Oct 26, 2004, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Jan Van Boghout:
Belgium is in, the iTMS is now mentioned in the Apple Store iPod pages. Everyone check theirs out!

Wahoo!! Finally AUSTRIA has got its own store. Nice that Apple doesn't (always) ignore smaller countries

Eug · Oct 26, 2004, 12:33 PM

So lots of new European stores, but AFAIK, no Canada.

In other news, rumours suggest a Gwen Stefani No Doubt iPod at some point (not today).

dtriska · Oct 26, 2004, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
So lots of new European stores, but AFAIK, no Canada.

iTMS Canada in November.

turtle777 · Oct 26, 2004, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by dtriska:
iTMS Canada in November.

The did NOT say what year !

My bets are down for 2010 !

-t

Eug · Oct 26, 2004, 02:57 PM

I waiting for a 6 GB iPod mini. The 60 GB iPod photo is OK, but I want something smaller. I'd love to have both though.

The U2 iPod is kinda fugly though.

Originally posted by dtriska:
iTMS Canada in November.

So Macrumors and the National Post were right.

Eug · Oct 26, 2004, 03:11 PM

OMG!!! iPod socks!!!!1

In addition to the new iPods, Apple also introduced a set of colored socks for carrying iPods. Apple will sell a set of six differently hued socks for $29.

Eug · Oct 26, 2004, 03:26 PM

iPod Photo downsamples images?

"Phil: It looks as though the iPod Photo will be compatible with optional card reader accessories like the Belkin Media Reader however I think Apple just missed the killer-app by leaving this out of the basic design. It's also fairly clear that the iPod Photo won't have the horsepower to display high megapixel images particularly quickly, hence why iTune's default is to transfer downsized images for playback on the iPod Photo. Also the AV dock should have come with a remote control. Despite all this I'm sure it'll sell by the millions. "

Anyone install iTunes 4.7 yet? I can't at this work computer. Hopefully there will be an option NOT to downsample images.

Landos Mustache · Oct 26, 2004, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
OMG!!! iPod socks!!!!1

In addition to the new iPods, Apple also introduced a set of colored socks for carrying iPods. Apple will sell a set of six differently hued socks for $29.

I need pictures RIGHT NOW!

brapper · Oct 26, 2004, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
I need pictures RIGHT NOW!

yeah they sound hilarious...

Landos Mustache · Oct 26, 2004, 03:54 PM

Oh ya and itunes 4.7 out. Neat new feature is you can have the small player window float above all other windows (at least I think it is new)