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Oct 27, 2004, 03:11 PM
 
Ipod photo 60GB costs (US) $599.00 = 326.448 British Pounds

Ipod photo 60GB costs (UK) 429.00 pounds = $787.430



$183.550 US Dollars more to buy it in the UK than in the US.


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Oct 27, 2004, 03:14 PM
 
UK cost includes tax, duties, delivery and 12 month guarantee.
US cost doesn't.


Adding the VAT alone brings the UK price to �382.00
     
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Oct 27, 2004, 03:28 PM
 
Originally posted by benign:
Ipod photo 60GB costs (US) $599.00 = 326.448 British Pounds
Ipod photo 60GB costs (UK) 429.00 pounds = $787.430
$183.550 US Dollars more to buy it in the UK than in the US.


[ ] You have never heard of electronics being cheaper in the US.
[ ] You have never heard of sales tax

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Oct 27, 2004, 03:50 PM
 
News flash: things cost more overseas.
     
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Oct 27, 2004, 04:06 PM
 
Originally posted by benign:
Ipod photo 60GB costs (US) $599.00 = 326.448 British Pounds

Ipod photo 60GB costs (UK) 429.00 pounds = $787.430



$183.550 US Dollars more to buy it in the UK than in the US.
Why don't you stop blaming it on apple and start blaming it on your crappy government? It's their fault you have to pay some ridiculous "VAT", not ours.

Go take your taxes and tell the person in charge where to shove em.
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Oct 27, 2004, 04:07 PM
 
Originally posted by GoGoReggieXPowars:
News flash: things cost more overseas.
Oh right, and since they're Taiwan-made...
     
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Oct 27, 2004, 04:10 PM
 
Originally posted by Mastrap:
UK cost includes tax, duties, delivery and 12 month guarantee.
US cost doesn't.


Adding the VAT alone brings the UK price to �382.00
They do not offer a 12month guarantee in the US ? What a joke.
     
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Oct 27, 2004, 04:11 PM
 
Originally posted by Link:
Why don't you stop blaming it on apple and start blaming it on your crappy government? It's their fault you have to pay some ridiculous "VAT", not ours.

Go take your taxes and tell the person in charge where to shove em.
Compensating for your crappy math and thread reading skills, allow me to point out that the price WITHOUT VAT still equates to US$ 702,38.
     
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Oct 27, 2004, 04:12 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Oh right, and since they're Taiwan-made...
Just wondering how much they are in Taiwan?
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Oct 27, 2004, 04:12 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Compensating for your crappy math and thread reading skills, allow me to point out that the price WITHOUT VAT still equates to US$ 702,38.
Whoopedee doo. Gas is cheaper in the US too, ya know
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Oct 27, 2004, 04:23 PM
 
Originally posted by hagheid:
Just wondering how much they are in Taiwan?
About the same as the UK.

Very expensive.

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Oct 27, 2004, 04:24 PM
 
Originally posted by Link:
Whoopedee doo. Gas is cheaper in the US too, ya know
....Particularly methane
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Oct 27, 2004, 04:29 PM
 
Originally posted by hagheid:
Just wondering how much they are in Taiwan?


$50... even dogs have them in taiwan.

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Oct 27, 2004, 04:33 PM
 
Originally posted by rjenkinson:


$50... even dogs have them in taiwan.

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A Taiwanese advert for a music label, or a restaurant?
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Oct 27, 2004, 04:43 PM
 
They do have a 1yr warrentee here... just 90days of phone support

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Oct 27, 2004, 04:51 PM
 
Originally posted by hagheid:
A Taiwanese advert for a music label, or a restaurant?
Ever heard of RCA? Victor?

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Oct 27, 2004, 05:00 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Ever heard of RCA? Victor?

"His Master's Voice"?
Er..yes! H M V
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Oct 27, 2004, 05:07 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Oh right, and since they're Taiwan-made...
Allow me to elucidate: in general when I've been to the UK, one spends a quid like a US dollar, if a Coke is US1$, it'll be 1 Pound Sterling, or thereabouts. The actual value of the currency isn't even factored in.

When I watch "Top Gear" and they say some new car is 35,000 Sterling, it'll most likely be US$35,000 in the USA.

I certainly can't speak for any other country in Europe, their prices, currency conversions or cost of living. YMMV.

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Oct 27, 2004, 07:13 PM
 
Originally posted by hagheid:
A Taiwanese advert for a music label, or a restaurant?
That's just stupid on so many levels.
     
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Oct 27, 2004, 07:29 PM
 
Hmmm, costs $ 698.00 here in Switzerland before Tax and $750 after tax.

As a comparison, prices of two Apple products in a number of countries (in US Dollars before tax)
Al 15" Powerbook Combo 1.33GHZ, 60GB HD:
US: $1999.00
UK: $2188.00
Germany: $2301.00
Switzerland: $2326.00
Australia: $2213.00

Ipod Photo 60GB:
US: $599
UK: $671.00
Germany: $705
Switzerland: $698.00
Australia: $637.00

So basically everyone outside the US pays more before tax, but there seems to be no rule as to how much more and while Switzerland is the most expensive here for Powerbook (It used to be cheaper than both the UK and Germany!!!, perhaps becuase the Swiss Franc has lost ground both against the Euro and the Pound) the iPod costs more in Germany and while the iPod costs less in Australia than in the UK, the Powerbook costs more than in the UK.

I would dearly know, as someone who recently bought that exact Powerbook here, how exactly Apple works these prices out. But it does show one thing, and that is that the EU is becoming more competitive than it used to be. Maybe Switzerland will finally join now.
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Oct 27, 2004, 07:40 PM
 
Originally posted by wataru:
That's just stupid on so many levels.
So many levels, So many prices, So many complaints.
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Oct 27, 2004, 07:55 PM
 
Just another reason why Apple only sold about 5 Macs in Europe last year. That and no advertising/support/effort. Glad to see the stores starting to appear in the UK now though.
     
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Oct 27, 2004, 07:56 PM
 
1) What Mastrap said.

2) Multinational corporations have to deal with currency fluctuations. Yes, it's been the US dollar declining for two years now, but for years before that, it was other currencies falling against the US dollar. Apple, like many, many businesses, decided to shift the risk of currency fluctuations to its customers. Hence, the higher prices outside of the US.

Apple does make adjustments to its prices due to major currency changes (Apple Canada's prices came down in 2003 due to a 20% appreciation of the Canadian dollar that year), and if the US dollar continues to weaken, I'm sure you'll see prices outside of the US come down. It'll probably take quite a while and a large currency shift, as the current pricing regime is most likely ingrained, but it'll happen.

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Oct 27, 2004, 08:14 PM
 
Here's an interesting comparison ....................

Dell Dimension 8400 USA $939 =�514
Dell Dimension 8400 UK �541


UK Dull has 'better' spec!
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Oct 28, 2004, 12:13 AM
 
Originally posted by dtriska:
1) What Mastrap said.

2) Multinational corporations have to deal with currency fluctuations. Yes, it's been the US dollar declining for two years now, but for years before that, it was other currencies falling against the US dollar. Apple, like many, many businesses, decided to shift the risk of currency fluctuations to its customers. Hence, the higher prices outside of the US.

Apple does make adjustments to its prices due to major currency changes (Apple Canada's prices came down in 2003 due to a 20% appreciation of the Canadian dollar that year), and if the US dollar continues to weaken, I'm sure you'll see prices outside of the US come down. It'll probably take quite a while and a large currency shift, as the current pricing regime is most likely ingrained, but it'll happen.

If it doesn't, complain to Steve.
That still doesn't explain the inconsistency in prices between products though. Why does the iPod cost more in Germany than in Switzerland, but a Powerbook more in Switzerland than in Germany.

Something is very wrong there.
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Oct 28, 2004, 02:45 AM
 
Originally posted by GoGoReggieXPowars:
News flash: things cost more overseas.
********, things don't cost more in America, that's overseas. God, Americans always think they are the only civil country on earth (if that's what you could possibly refer to them as).
     
   
 
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