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MoKoNa^ · Jan 24, 2002, 09:30 AM

Im looking for a VPN client to use on my school's W-Lan, It has to handle the win2k server internal VPN server...
Will os 9 clients give me network access if I launch them in classic?

RealMadrid · Jan 24, 2002, 09:37 AM

Hi:

Long time ago I started the same question. Back then there was apparently no solution. The only way I found was using "Tunnelbuilder" together with "Dave". That at least worked in OS 9. Hopefully there has been some change meanwhile.

A couple of days I read there is a VPN client for Cisco 3000 Router available but as to my understanding that is of little help for accessing MS networks.

Regards

drmbb2 · Jan 24, 2002, 10:25 AM

Does this help? - http://www.webthing.net/vncthing/

There is also a server side package - www.osxvnc.com (I think ?)

Cheers, Michael

C.J. Moof · Jan 24, 2002, 10:43 AM

For the records, drmbb2 has his TLAs mixed up.

VPN= Virtual Private Network- a way for a remote machine to connect to a router/access point, authenticate, and gain access to a network that it otherwise would be protected from.

VNC= Virtual Network Computing- a cross platform protocol that allows remote computers to be viewed and controlled, as seen within a window on a client computer. It's conceptually similar to Timbuktu, PCAnywhere or GoToMyPC.com.

The lack of VPN clients for OS X is annoying. I wonder how hard it would be to port a unix client, assuming they're out there.

SpinCycle · Jan 24, 2002, 04:18 PM

I am also looking for a VPN client.. Particularly for use with the CheckPoint SecuRemote.

MoKoNa^ · Jan 26, 2002, 12:50 PM

Well there must be a bsd client somewhere? That must be possible to port pretty easily... Won't it? It's not like it's appletalk...

MoKoNa^ · Jan 27, 2002, 01:21 PM

Found a port of a vpn client supporting pptp on http://members.blackbox.net/a/programs/pptp/

It doesnt support encryption though...

wadesworld · Jan 27, 2002, 01:31 PM

The lack of VPN clients for OS X is annoying. I wonder how hard it would be to port a unix client, assuming they're out there.

Talk your administrators into putting in Cisco VPN concentrators. There are OS X clients for both the 3000 and 5000 concentrators.

Wade

jokell82 · Jan 27, 2002, 02:50 PM

I also need a VPN client for my OSX laptop to connect to a Win2000 server. Is there anything available? I checked the program at blackbox, and it wouldn't work for me. Is there anything available in 9??? I find it hard to believe that no one has made a MS VPN client for the macs.

MoKoNa^ · Jan 28, 2002, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by jokell82:
<STRONG>I also need a VPN client for my OSX laptop to connect to a Win2000 server. Is there anything available? I checked the program at blackbox, and it wouldn't work for me. Is there anything available in 9??? I find it hard to believe that no one has made a MS VPN client for the macs.</STRONG>

For OS 9 there are quite a few, like Tunnelbuilder from efficient networks, check it out.

Also I just found this great page about vpn's and macs...
You can find that here.

By the way, the protocol used by windows is called pptp, if anyone finds a pptp client with encryption for mac os x, post a link as soon as possible...

[ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: MoKoNa^ ]

rrongstad · Sep 3, 2002, 09:41 AM

Wade,

I have the latest Cisco vpnclient (3.6 I believe) and it was working great under 10.1.5, but 10.2 killed it. I've seen posts saying that the Cisco vpnclient works under 10.2 for some people, but I don't know what magic is required to make it work.

Rob

macmicke · Sep 3, 2002, 10:22 AM

Why hasnt any one mentioned 10.2's built in VPN client? The Networkconnection app has a VPN client that works with microsofts VPN solutions (pptp) I use it everyday without a glitch. You also have Pie pants for 10.1....

voodoo · Sep 3, 2002, 10:42 AM

Well well. The Swede from Solna is very correct. 10.2 has VPN support built in, v.neatly. That is basically free. Go VPN away...

DaveGee · Sep 3, 2002, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by macmicke:
Why hasnt any one mentioned 10.2's built in VPN client? The Networkconnection app has a VPN client that works with microsofts VPN solutions (pptp) I use it everyday without a glitch. You also have Pie pants for 10.1....

Well... VPN like most things that call themselves a 'standard'... VPN is far from 'a standard' or what I like to say...

Standards are a WONDERFUL thing **AND** you have so many to choose from!

MS VPN
Cisco VPN
IPSEC
ete etc etc...

The VPN that's included free with Jag works okay (but no split tunneling near as I can tell) for MS style VPN but doesn't do a lick-o-good for VPN ala Cisco and getting the company you work for to just up and switch from one type of VPN to another just ain't gonna happen (in a multi-platform environment at any rate).

Dave

jokell82 · Sep 3, 2002, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by macmicke:
Why hasnt any one mentioned 10.2's built in VPN client? The Networkconnection app has a VPN client that works with microsofts VPN solutions (pptp) I use it everyday without a glitch. You also have Pie pants for 10.1....

Look at the date of the post, 1/27/02 for mine. At the time there was no Jag. However, now I use the VPN in jag, and it works great.

dwishbone · Sep 3, 2002, 04:23 PM

glad someone pointed it out 10.2 had it.
i remember Jobs mentioning built in VPN support at MWNY.
was going to suggest it...but someone beat me to it.

kman42 · Sep 3, 2002, 04:34 PM

What about an IPSEC solution? Anything available?

kman

LeeG · Sep 3, 2002, 07:33 PM

I have used the built in VPN in 10.2 - and its great, BUT

internet connect connects almost immediately, but then IE takes FOREVER to load pages from work - and it will ONLY load pages in the VPN, and they usually don't finish. Any help? I will try netscape and see if its any better...

Lee

krove · Sep 3, 2002, 08:12 PM

Yeah, anyword on IPSec? The Mac OS X Jaguar pages over at Apple still list this as a feature, but there is definitely no GUI yet.

Anyway to use it through the command line? Did it even make it into Jaguar?

OreoCookie · Sep 4, 2002, 09:24 AM

There are two that I know of -- PiePants and VPNConnect.

First of all, to set something clear: yes, there is built-in support for VPN in Jagwire, but no, not for all configurations. In my case, my university uses a VPN for its wireless LAN; the protocoll used is slightly different (described to me as: they use the lesser secure version of the more secure technology).

If you have trouble connecting, try these tools. I use PiePants and have no problems at all.