[Groovy]

I will post a link tomorrow it's late and i need to go to work in 6 hours : )
Anyway on the left is an inactive window. The right side is active.
Menus are NON transparent. As you can see I made my own column width widget.
Yes it still needs tweaks so I will call this 1.0b like Sine did : )

later


Groovy


Click here to see a screen shot

[ 11-08-2001: Message edited by: Groovy ]

[PhreakOut X]

Did u get the folder icons from the graphite aqua project patch?

[Groovy]

no i didn't. I never even heard of that LOL

Those icons came with QS and I have not had a chance to
put the old ones back.


later

Groovy

[Aldie G]

looks good man!
looking forward..

[Groovy]

I will post UL to my iDisk and post a link when i get home from work.

I need to themepack it for MMX and hope MMX can pack the finder.rsrc
as well. If not then everyone will need to go root (or boot into OS 9)
and replace it with my version which is a pain in the butt.


later


Groovy

[tojo]

Originally posted by Groovy:
<STRONG>I will post UL to my iDisk and post a link when i get home from work.

I need to themepack it for MMX and hope MMX can pack the finder.rsrc
as well. If not then everyone will need to go root (or boot into OS 9)
and replace it with my version which is a pain in the butt.


later


Groovy</STRONG>

Don't worry.

Themepacker has default selections, but whatever isn't covered from there can be defined by the packer(that's you) using the "other" tag which can be given a new name/source/destination.

It works well.

[Groovy]

Don't worry.

Themepacker has default selections, but whatever isn't covered from there can be defined by the packer(that's you) using the "other" tag which can be given a new name/source/destination.

It works well.

ok that is good to know. Because the users would hate to have to go root
and mess with it : )


later


Groovy

[Sine]

Did you at least give Synotic and the other theme designer credit in your documentation? I hope so.

[tanhauser]

Ok, I have to say...

The whole idea of messing around with themes under OS X seemed ludicrous to me, and thought every theme put out there looked butt ugly.

Until now.

Man I love your X-Grey Theme!! I want to install it like... now! One small problem though, seeing how I'm a theme virgin, how does one go about installing themes? Is there a (good) app that handles this, or do we need to dive into the system and replace files manually (not a problem for me).

Keep up the good work Groovy, your theme is... well... groovy.

[Kyle LH]

since you can make the menus non transparent, is there a way to remove the drop shadows for the menus and windows as well?

[iKevin]

i found an app that kills drop shadows....
http://www.versiontracker.com/morein...d=12158&db=mac

[Groovy]

Did you at least give Synotic and the other theme designer credit in your documentation? I hope so.


no because I gave no one credit and there are no docs

this is a freebie on me without my name anywhere in the theme
because I do not care about getting credit. IT is the same reason
I ported X-Par to OS X. No credit there either. I do it to help
OS X thrive. (X-PAR is a recover util for fixing rar files)

I put it out there for the enjoyment of OS X users not
to get an ego boost : )


Also there is NO PX in hardly at all. However there is still
lots of QS and the QS maker said to take his theme and go for it.
So I did.

I changed a TON of the PX stuff. All new scroll bars everthing.
I even redid the window widgets.

As for QS well. I fixed a few broken things but did not really change
much (His menu item was broken and left strange double lines in
IE and when you press and hold a folder on the dock and a memu pops out)

Just enjoy and forget about who made what since my next them
is gonna be way more mine since NOW I know what to do. ; )


later


Groovy

[Groovy]

Man I love your X-Grey Theme!! I want to install it like... now! One small problem though, seeing how I'm a theme virgin, how does one go about installing themes? Is there a (good) app that handles this, or do we need to dive into the system and replace files manually (not a problem for me).

Keep up the good work Groovy, your theme is... well... groovy.

well it is on my iDisk
http://homepage.mac.com/groovyt/


go for it : ) remember it is beta and I only did the BIG stuff.
the small stuff is still Aqua.


Also the theme was based on QS and PX so love those two
them makers as well!!!!

Later

GRoovy

[Groovy]

oh yeah you need MMX MetaMorphX (Spelling?) because
I made a .theme file out of it all.


just use that then log out and back in

later

Groovy

[Kyle LH]

cool theme, but I can't seem to find a way to go back to aqua now, is there a way to remove installed themes?

[Adam Price]

Originally posted by Groovy:
<STRONG>oh yeah you need MMX MetaMorphX (Spelling?) because
I made a .theme file out of it all.
</STRONG>

Weird...I used the theme file, and I got exactly what you posted on the website, except the close/genie/grow widgets reverted back to Aqua. Why'd that happen? I like the theme a lot, but not the aqua widgets. Has this happened to anyone else?

-Adam

[Michaelm8000]

I, for one, am not in to all theme OS 9 platinum themes. You guys have to let go. Looking at this X-grey theme, not to afent the maker of it, but it is ugly. why in the world would you use a borring OS 9 theme that complatly dose not go with the OS X feel.

If you are going to make themes you should be thinking of making a new look, not imitaing an old one. I am totaly into themes and I think it is great for people to be able to make there computer to look and feel the way they wish. But I thik that "OS 9 wanabe themes" like this one are just taking away from the OS X feeling.

But go ahead, use what you will. I just think these themes are borring and not that creative.

[ehemmete]

is there a reason that all (at least that I can think of) themes I have seen do away with the dividers in menus? I really liked those dividers, but I also like the idea of themes and some (this one included) are great!

[Groovy]

cool theme, but I can't seem to find a way to go back to aqua now, is there a way to remove installed themes?

yes just launch MMX and switch to Aqua


then log out and back in


later

Groovy

[Groovy]

Weird...I used the theme file, and I got exactly what you posted on the website, except the close/genie/grow widgets reverted back to Aqua. Why'd that happen? I like the theme a lot, but not the aqua widgets. Has this happened to anyone else?

-Adam

because I only did the main Theme. If you choose graphite in the system
prefs you get a half finished version. You need to stay in the main theme
until i finish the graphite one which will be the same but will have
a slight blue tint to it for those who want some color.

go into your system prefs and choose general control panel
then at the drop down menu choose BLUE not graphite.


ok?


later

Groovy

[Groovy]

I, for one, am not in to all theme OS 9 platinum themes. You guys have to let go. Looking at this X-grey theme, not to afent the maker of it, but it is ugly. why in the world would you use a borring OS 9 theme that complatly dose not go with the OS X feel.

i take it you are NOT an artist and do NOT use Photoshop 10 hours a day
like I do. It is called X-Grey for a reason abd that is to give all of us
who work in photoshop and in the pre-press biz (and screen printing myself)
a screen with neutral color. You can NOT color correct artwork in Aqua.
it is IMPOSSIBLE. Too much color to throw the eye off.

This theme is for people who NEED grey/neutral color space to work in.


ok?

later

Groovy

[Michaelm8000]

Originally posted by Groovy:
<STRONG>I, for one, am not in to all theme OS 9 platinum themes. You guys have to let go. Looking at this X-grey theme, not to afent the maker of it, but it is ugly. why in the world would you use a borring OS 9 theme that complatly dose not go with the OS X feel.

i take it you are NOT an artist and do NOT use Photoshop 10 hours a day
like I do. It is called X-Grey for a reason abd that is to give all of us
who work in photoshop and in the pre-press biz (and screen printing myself)
a screen with neutral color. You can NOT color correct artwork in Aqua.
it is IMPOSSIBLE. Too much color to throw the eye off.

This theme is for people who NEED grey/neutral color space to work in.


ok?

later

Groovy</STRONG>

I was not meaning to attack or put your theme down. I was just saying my opinion. no hard feelings man.

What is rong with the Aqua graphite theme?? that has not color.

O, and yes I do use PhotoShop 10 hours a day, mabe more.

[Synotic]

I just want to note that if you don't want the stripes to appear under the widgets.. you can do the following... make the title fill much longer than normal.. then on the side bars and title bar.. make the first part not have any stripes.. then the rest do... an example of that can be shown here...
http://homepage.mac.com/Synotic/NeatFreak2.jpg

Here is the image of the pixmap:

errm.. I will try to get the image later.. Sprocket D2 screws up the image with colored static.. and Sprocket D3 crashes on start up in OS 9...

[Carp]

Originally posted by Synotic:
<STRONG>I just want to note that if you don't want the stripes to appear under the widgets.. you can do the following... make the title fill much longer than normal.. then on the side bars and title bar.. make the first part not have any stripes.. then the rest do... an example of that can be shown here...
http://homepage.mac.com/Synotic/NeatFreak2.jpg

Here is the image of the pixmap:

</STRONG>

how you can put larger image to the resource file? when i open file with Sprocket D4, then there are pixmap's like 20x22 and so. i can replace them, put i can;t change size

[Boondoggle]

i take it you are NOT an artist and do NOT use Photoshop 10 hours a day
like I do. It is called X-Grey for a reason abd that is to give all of us
who work in photoshop and in the pre-press biz (and screen printing myself)
a screen with neutral color. You can NOT color correct artwork in Aqua.
it is IMPOSSIBLE. Too much color to throw the eye off.

This theme is for people who NEED grey/neutral color space to work in.

I've got no problem with this cool theme or any other if folks like it and want to use it, but I just don't buy this argument for one minute.

First, if you use a neutral gray desktop pick the only color you're seeing most of the time is the tiny blue apple menu, and maybe the window control buttons, which can be neutralized in Aqua.

Second, if an artist that is so sensitive to color is using PhotoShop 10 hours a day then they MIGHT NOTICE IT IS RUNNING IN CLASSIC WHICH IS ALL GRAY ANYWAY.


The implication here is that 1. Artists are easily distracted by bright shiny objects, or 2. totally unaware of what is going on right in front of their face. Obviously neither of which is the case, so lets just say that some like gray better. You can't argue with that.

[Michaelm8000]

Originally posted by Boondoggle:
<STRONG>


I've got no problem with this cool theme or any other if folks like it and want to use it, but I just don't buy this argument for one minute.

First, if you use a neutral gray desktop pick the only color you're seeing most of the time is the tiny blue apple menu, and maybe the window control buttons, which can be neutralized in Aqua.

Second, if an artist that is so sensitive to color is using PhotoShop 10 hours a day then they MIGHT NOTICE IT IS RUNNING IN CLASSIC WHICH IS ALL GRAY ANYWAY.


The implication here is that 1. Artists are easily distracted by bright shiny objects, or 2. totally unaware of what is going on right in front of their face. Obviously neither of which is the case, so lets just say that some like gray better. You can't argue with that.</STRONG>

I have no probelm with themes or this one ether I just wish themers would get a little more creative. There are like 5 different platinum, OS 9, Grey etc . What ever you whant to call them they are just themes that look or try to look like OS 9. I would love to see some totaly now looks.

and if colors distract you you can always uses the graphite theme biult into OS X.

[Mac Guru]

i take it you are NOT an artist and do NOT use Photoshop 10 hours a day
like I do. It is called X-Grey for a reason abd that is to give all of us
who work in photoshop and in the pre-press biz (and screen printing myself)
a screen with neutral color. You can NOT color correct artwork in Aqua.
it is IMPOSSIBLE. Too much color to throw the eye off.

This theme is for people who NEED grey/neutral color space to work in.

Now PLEASE tell me you're not doing prepress work through OS X? In a world with Photoshop, Quark and about a dozen Pre-press apps running in an EMULATOR you must have a lot of balls and RAM to run a shop from X. If you want color correction, and pre-press use OS 9. X is not yet the answer for us pre-press people. I use Photoshop 10+ hours a day and at least if it's running in Classic I can notice that it is not in an aqua window... sure your other apps may be but man you must be easily distracted... Aqua is fine for color correction... just look at your work and not it's windows edges. BTW I'm with Michael on this one... you want graphite, DESIGN your own theme... don't just copy the old.

Mac Guru

[Groovy]

Synotic - LOL what a great shot of a desktop. I love it! ; )


I did have it that way at first but I decided to go in shorten so that the lines
went all the way. i even added the lines to the caps. (i think I'm so burnt out
who knows anymore)

That theme is out there as a total open source thing and i hope you
and everyone else make better versions of it. (i.e. add color and finish the small widgets
and even finish the graphite side of it)

My next theme now that i know what I'm doing sorta (that was my first crack at theming)
will have NOTHING to do with ANYONES else themes.

and will be colorful and so bright it will hurt your eyes (sorta
like your great deskyop pic. man that is funny stuff)

One question though. How to get rid of the lines under the TITLE BAR TEXT?

is there a way?


later


Groovy

[Synotic]

Originally posted by Groovy:
<STRONG>Synotic - LOL what a great shot of a desktop. I love it! ; )


I did have it that way at first but I decided to go in shorten so that the lines
went all the way. i even added the lines to the caps. (i think I'm so burnt out
who knows anymore)

That theme is out there as a total open source thing and i hope you
and everyone else make better versions of it. (i.e. add color and finish the small widgets
and even finish the graphite side of it)

My next theme now that i know what I'm doing sorta (that was my first crack at theming)
will have NOTHING to do with ANYONES else themes.

and will be colorful and so bright it will hurt your eyes (sorta
like your great deskyop pic. man that is funny stuff)

One question though. How to get rid of the lines under the TITLE BAR TEXT?

is there a way?


later


Groovy</STRONG>

If you want to get the lines to not repeat... it will have to be by manually editing the layo and adding a new pxm.. like the guy who figured out how to get borders on the windows... I however, have no idea who this guy is... and this change would only apply to carbon applications.

[Groovy]

I was not meaning to attack or put your theme down. I was just saying my opinion. no hard feelings man.

What is rong with the Aqua graphite theme?? that has not color.

O, and yes I do use PhotoShop 10 hours a day, mabe more.

I just want total grey. Simple as that. I do seps for screen printing
and any color on screen (ANY COLOR) can throw you off and the client
who are on site with us many times looking at the screen who are NOT
aware of this mess.

Try and use a purple, very bright desktop background
pic then go in and draw whatever and have it EXACTLY the same
as if you used a grey background and GUI etc..... No one is that good : )

Of course I can do seps with color GUI with pulsating blue buttons
but i choose NOT TOO
and Aqua is ALSO too bright (I get tired eyes looking at it all day)
and I HATE transparent menus. My theme
does NOT have transparent menus so i can WORK FASTER since it is
easier to read and the menus pop and scroll faster also.


as for the other posters who commented on this PS works great in classic
and FILE I/O is FASTER. I have 1.5 gigs of ram on dual boxes.


Anyway... some of you still do not get it.

The idea is to switch between CLASSIC and OS X
and NOT know you did. I want classic grey in BOTH. Nothing
worse than being in classic and then jumping to OS X and being hit by
a RAINBOW in the face ; )

This was the main point I was trying to make and almost no one seemed to
get it. (Which proves my prose is poor) LOL


Now if Apple made it so that Aqua was ALSO in classic I would not have made
my version of the theme and would just use graphite.


later


Groovy

[Michaelm8000]

Originally posted by Groovy:
<STRONG>


I just want total grey. Simple as that. I do seps for screen printing
and any color on screen (ANY COLOR) can throw you off and the client
who are on site with us many times looking at the screen who are NOT
aware of this mess.

Try and use a purple, very bright desktop background
pic then go in and draw whatever and have it EXACTLY the same
as if you used a grey background and GUI etc..... No one is that good : )

Of course I can do seps with color GUI with pulsating blue buttons
but i choose NOT TOO
and Aqua is ALSO too bright (I get tired eyes looking at it all day)
and I HATE transparent menus. My theme
does NOT have transparent menus so i can WORK FASTER since it is
easier to read and the menus pop and scroll faster also.


as for the other posters who commented on this PS works great in classic
and FILE I/O is FASTER. I have 1.5 gigs of ram on dual boxes.


Anyway... some of you still do not get it.

The idea is to switch between CLASSIC and OS X
and NOT know you did. I want classic grey in BOTH. Nothing
worse than being in classic and then jumping to OS X and being hit by
a RAINBOW in the face ; )

This was the main point I was trying to make and almost no one seemed to
get it. (Which proves my prose is poor) LOL


Now if Apple made it so that Aqua was ALSO in classic I would not have made
my version of the theme and would just use graphite.


later


Groovy</STRONG>

Sounds like you would enjoy using windows 95 ugly, 8 bit everything etc.

Why do not just use one of the many great OS 9 aqua themes? then you would not be able to tell when you are switching? just an idea.

But what ever, I am glad there are people like you making themes and stuff for OS X. I am looking farward to seeing the new theme you are working on.

[ 11-08-2001: Message edited by: Michaelm8000 ]

[kulverse]

I like the theme, but my only problem is that your custom column resizing wigits stay even when switching the theme back to Aqua. Its really not attractive to look at.

Is there any way to bring back the aqua ones? I can get the file from my iBook that still has a clean Aqua install, if i knew what file to replace. Thank you

Brian

[Synotic]

Originally posted by Carp:
<STRONG>

how you can put larger image to the resource file? when i open file with Sprocket D4, then there are pixmap's like 20x22 and so. i can replace them, put i can;t change size </STRONG>

You do it with Theminator.. keep in mind that very few pixmaps can't be resized.. mainly only fills can be.

[Groovy]

I like the theme, but my only problem is that your custom column resizing wigits stay even when switching the theme back to Aqua. Its really not attractive to look at.

Is there any way to bring back the aqua ones? I can get the file from my iBook that still has a clean Aqua install, if i knew what file to replace. Thank you

not my fault. BLAME MMX it does not do what it supposed to do
and that is make a BACKUP of ANY file it replaces so it can switch back correctly.
What MMX should do is save a list of changes in a plist then when switching
ALWAYS revert back to what was there PRIOR to THEN switch in the new theme.
That would solve the problem of all these rsrc and files getting mixed and matched.


E-mail the MMX coderds and tell them what i said above. The more you complain'the bette chance that will fix this : )

In the mean time just replace the Finder.rsrc by hand with the old one.
You need to do it as root user odds are.

here is the path

/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/Finder.rsrc


just put the old one back in. log out then back in OR quit the finder
and it will restart with the old icon

later


Groovy

[Groovy]

Why do not just use one of the many great OS 9 aqua themes? then you would not be able to tell when you are switching? just an idea.

because there are none. Name even ONE theme that looks as close
to OS 9 as the one i just put up? and is 99% grey.

PX by expert theme maker synotic doesn't work with 10.1 and it is the only OS 9 like theme that came
even remotly close to OS 9 look. That is why i based X-Grey on it
then tweaked and fixed the bugs in it so it would work with 10.1

Then i added some of my own GREY above and beyond OS 9 and PX
like the thumb bars are grey and 3D in my version etc....

Name one theme that also added an OS 9 finder column widget as well.

none did. I was the first. PX couldn't do it because there WAS NO
column stuff in 10.0 and none of the other theme could either because
they too are all OLD and crusty and do not work in 10.1 : )


later

Groovy

[kulverse]

Originally posted by Groovy:
<STRONG>

not my fault. BLAME MMX it does not do what it supposed to do
and that is make a BACKUP of ANY file it replaces so it can switch back correctly.
What MMX should do is save a list of changes in a plist then when switching
ALWAYS revert back to what was there PRIOR to THEN switch in the new theme.
That would solve the problem of all these rsrc and files getting mixed and matched.


E-mail the MMX coderds and tell them what i said above. The more you complain'the bette chance that will fix this : )

In the mean time just replace the Finder.rsrc by hand with the old one.
You need to do it as root user odds are.

here is the path

/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/Finder.rsrc


just put the old one back in. log out then back in OR quit the finder
and it will restart with the old icon

later


Groovy</STRONG>

Yeah. I knew about the whole MMX thing. I should have addressed that in my previous post. I didn't mean to make it sound like it was your fault. Sorry about that.

Anyways..thanks. Im still using your theme, so it isnt a problem at the moment. I just want the ability to bring it back to normal. Thanks for the advise and the path. You rock

kulverse

[Groovy]

here is the lastest version of X-Grey theme in a desktop picture ; )

Click here to see a screen shot

later

Groovy

[Sine]

It's cool you have a finder widget and all.. but when is the rest of the theme going to be done? I downloaded it and all of the small resources are still Aqua.. plus tons of other things.

[Michaelm8000]

Originally posted by Groovy:
<STRONG>Why do not just use one of the many great OS 9 aqua themes? then you would not be able to tell when you are switching? just an idea.

because there are none. Name even ONE theme that looks as close
to OS 9 as the one i just put up? and is 99% grey.

PX by expert theme maker synotic doesn't work with 10.1 and it is the only OS 9 like theme that came
even remotly close to OS 9 look. That is why i based X-Grey on it
then tweaked and fixed the bugs in it so it would work with 10.1

Then i added some of my own GREY above and beyond OS 9 and PX
like the thumb bars are grey and 3D in my version etc....

Name one theme that also added an OS 9 finder column widget as well.

none did. I was the first. PX couldn't do it because there WAS NO
column stuff in 10.0 and none of the other theme could either because
they too are all OLD and crusty and do not work in 10.1 : )


later

Groovy</STRONG>

You miss herd me. I was refuring to a theme for OS 9 that looks like OS X. You said the purpose of this theme was to make it so in OS X you could switch between OS X and classic with out noticing an interface differnece. So I said why don't you just get a theme for OS 9 that looks like OS X. got it?

[Gilsch2]

Why are people so infatuated with "OS 9 type platinum" themes for OS X?
With all due respect to the people who I'm sure put a lot of effort and time to develop them, why not create something that looks modern? something that takes over where Aqua left off? I for one hate going back to OS 9 because of the old platinum look.It just looks ancient to me now.The day someone creates something cool and modern looking then I will definitely give it a try. Just one guy's opinion.

[ 11-09-2001: Message edited by: Gilsch2 ]

[Sine]

Originally posted by Gilsch2:
<STRONG>Why are people so infatuated with "OS 9 type platinum" themes for OS X?
With all due respect to the people who I'm sure put a lot of effort and time to develop them, why not create something that looks modern? something that takes over where Aqua left off? I for one hate going back to OS 9 because of the old platinum look.It just looks ancient to me now.The day someone creates something cool and modern looking then I will definitely give it a try. Just one guy's opinion.

[ 11-09-2001: Message edited by: Gilsch2 ]</STRONG>

Grey is easier on the eyes. I set out to make Sosumi to have OS 9 like parts.. but more modern looking. OS 9 is getting rather aged looking and outdated. I just took the concept and modernized it. I never set out to try to Copy OS 9.. or make it look just like it. I'd like to have Sosumi theme in Classic

I guess I could do that eventually..but it would probably be a waste of time.

[Groovy]

It's cool you have a finder widget and all.. but when is the rest of the theme going to be done? I downloaded it and all of the small resources are still Aqua.. plus tons of other things.

as I explained in the other thread. I'M NOT


I'm leaving that up to others to do the small stuff and a graphite
if they want. (read the other thread I explained all this before)

If enough people complain i will since it is easy
to just shrink down the big stuff and copy paste like a mad man
but i want to work on MY NEW THEME not an OS 9 look alike.
I might add a blue tinted graphite to it though. Same everything
but just colorize it to a nice shade of very light blue/green.

like i said already, I used QS and PX as a starting point because
I never did a theme before and I used this more as a learning thing
than a making a new theme thing. My goal was to get PX to work
on 10.1 and make it more grey which is why QS was also used
since void make most the Aqua stuff grey. (that is why the end theme
is named X-Grey. i.e. the whole point was to go grey as much as possible)

I then went in and made many things that were blue like the scroll bars
grey and 3D. and tweaked this and that and fixed bugs.

I now know enough to do my own theme and how all this works.

I might even try to figure out HOW the layout rsrc works
so we can fix the scroll bar click track goofyness.
that one really irks me : )


later

Groovy

[Groovy]

You miss herd me. I was refuring to a theme for OS 9 that looks like OS X. You said the purpose of this theme was to make it so in OS X you could switch between OS X and classic with out noticing an interface differnece. So I said why don't you just get a theme for OS 9 that looks like OS X. got it?

No you missed my point : )

I HATE AQUA or any theme that is a rainbow mess

so why would I do what you suggested and have OS X and CLASSIC a visual nightmare?

got it?


later

Groovy

[Sine]

Originally posted by Groovy:
<STRONG>as I explained in the other thread. I'M NOT


I'm leaving that up to others to do the small stuff and a graphite
if they want. (read the other thread I explained all this before)
</STRONG>

You mean the stuff that wasn't mostly done for you anyhow your going to let some one else do it. I hope you don't get mad when they call it their OWN theme. Say I was to take this theme.. add the small parts to it and call it my own. I hope that doesn't make you mad.
<STRONG>

If enough people complain i will since it is easy
to just shrink down the big stuff and copy paste like a mad man</STRONG>

You could do it that way.. but it will look like crap.
<STRONG>

but i want to work on MY NEW THEME not an OS 9 look alike.
I might add a blue tinted graphite to it though. Same everything
but just colorize it to a nice shade of very light blue/green.
</STRONG>

I thought you just said you wanted it to match OS 9 a lot better?
<STRONG>

like i said already, I used QS and PX as a starting point because
I never did a theme before and I used this more as a learning thing
than a making a new theme thing. My goal was to get PX to work
on 10.1 and make it more grey which is why QS was also used
since void make most the Aqua stuff grey. (that is why the end theme
is named X-Grey. i.e. the whole point was to go grey as much as possible)

I then went in and made many things that were blue like the scroll bars
grey and 3D. and tweaked this and that and fixed bugs.

I now know enough to do my own theme and how all this works.

I might even try to figure out HOW the layout rsrc works
so we can fix the scroll bar click track goofyness.
that one really irks me : )


later

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Have fun

[Groovy]

You mean the stuff that wasn't mostly done for you anyhow your going to let some one else do it.

you mean like the Aqua which was already done for you and you just re drew
some pics to make a variation on a theme? You didn't invent Aqua and it was because of Aqua you even could figure out how it all worked.

This is why it is called variations on a THEME ; )

No one, not even your theme is original. I have seen stuff in yours I have
seen many times before. That is theming, get used to it.
Go look at kaleidoscope for OS 9 it has all been done before

i say again this is all just variations on a THEME (that being Aqua)

The small stuff is whatever was there. I said this many times

I hope you don't get mad when they call it their OWN theme. Say I was to take this theme.. add the small parts to it and call it my own. I hope that doesn't make you mad.

i couldn't care less. Obviously you still did not read the other thread.
X-Grey is open source IMHO and made to get a PX version working on 10.1 with extra grey
thrown in for good measure. Synoptic (SPELLING?) seems fine with it and it was his
PX I used as a starting point. I hope he goes in and makes it better now that i
made it 10.1 usable. I already told
him this and he already has made changes to it. COOL!!! I hope
he does the small stuff and tweaks it better and uploads it and calls it
PX3.

WHY do you think I didn't add my name to the theme?
There is no "Groovy" anywhere or my e-mail address anywhere
or docs even. Do you get it yet? I do not CARE what anyone
does with the theme and in fact if you READ the other thread like i asked
you will have seen I said I HOPE others take it and make it better
and post it so I can then download and use it myself : )

I thought you just said you wanted it to match OS 9 a lot better?

It already matches it great. of course it can be better
I never claimed otherwise.

Again the theme is called X-Grey not OS 9 Clone X LOL


You are making too much out of this who gets credit nonsense.
Your theme and everyones is just a tweaked version of what Apple did.
Apple deserves all the credit not a bunch of macNN hacks like us who go
in a redrawn a few a pics.

You want to impress me. write an app that edits the layout rsrc : )

so far the only folks that have truly impressed me are the theme app TOOL
coders. Without them and Aqua to learn from and to know what to do
by LOOKING at the Aqua pxm's there would be no theming.


The day someone makes a theme that as an example has
round windows or all the widgets are moved around to new spots
or some other far out thing that is NOT in Aqua anywhere that will get
a 10 on my coolness meter : )

until then just be happy a grey theme is out there for those who want
it and for those who might want to make it even better for us OS X users
who like bland GUI LOL

later


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[Synotic]

I actually already ported Platinum X to 10.1... but I never really got down the pop-up buttons down... and I just made a simple little mistake with the double scroll bars where something is reversed... if anyone wants to see it as an example or even fix it.. then I'd be glad to post a download link... I could also post an example of borders on windows if anyone is interested.

[Michaelm8000]

Originally posted by Groovy:
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I HATE AQUA or any theme that is a rainbow mess
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WHy don't you just go out and get a good old fation PC with window 95. That sounds like what you are looking for

[Adam Price]

Originally posted by Synotic:
<STRONG>I actually already ported Platinum X to 10.1... but I never really got down the pop-up buttons down... and I just made a simple little mistake with the double scroll bars where something is reversed... if anyone wants to see it as an example or even fix it.. then I'd be glad to post a download link... I could also post an example of borders on windows if anyone is interested.</STRONG>

I would love to see those borders - that would be REALLY different from Aqua!

Synotic: I would be very interested to see Platinum X on 10.1, please post a download link!

[Groovy]

Synotic - I would like to see it. I do not want borders but
to see how it was done would be cool so that maybe you could move
widgets to a side window thick border? (Change layout rsrc too)

what I really want to do is figure out the layout stuff
so I can move the min and zoom widgets AWAY from the close box.

i also now and then in IE go up to hit the back button (text only bar)
and over shoot and hit the damn close box because
I'm SO used to USB overdrive in OS 9 when I come into OS X
it is like half the speed and the xcel/dcel curve SUCKS.

We need USB overdrive for OS X ASAP : )


later


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