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Jacob
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Aug 16, 2005, 03:19 AM
 
Yknow, if Apple used better parts besides from ****ing maxtor drives, maybe their stuff would last as long as ...yknow, maybe my Powerbook 100. Which every component still works in. Or maybe the countless other macs I own..and school macs..I mean, how many countless legacy macs are running FINE up to this day? What has it been...15+ years now? Heh..my new Powerbook..not even a month old. Great Apple...great.
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 03:43 AM
 
Maxtor? I thought Apple only used Toshibas and Hitachi drives.

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Aug 16, 2005, 03:54 AM
 
My 1992-ish thinkpad has a maxtor drive, still works great.
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Aug 16, 2005, 03:57 AM
 
Maxtor wasnt horrible back then thats why
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 03:58 AM
 
I have two iBook G4s in front of me and they both have Hitachi drives. I can't figure out what the eMac has... System Profiler says "ST340015A."
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 04:36 AM
 
That's a seagate.
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Aug 16, 2005, 05:56 AM
 
Apple uses Western Digital and Seagate and Hitachi... what Maxtor?!
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 06:39 AM
 
Anybody complaining about the durability of computer hardware today in comparison to eight or ten years ago would do well to remember that the hardware back then also cost eight to ten times as much as it does today.
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 07:46 AM
 
Apple will be out of business by the end of this week.®
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 09:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by rickey939
Apple will be out of business by the end of this week.®
And *rickey* well retire for good...

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Aug 16, 2005, 10:01 AM
 
Fujitsu for laptops
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Aug 16, 2005, 10:45 AM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
And *rickey* well retire for good...

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:05 AM
 
Ya Maxtor stinks. I bought 5 Maxtor drives over the years and 4 of them failed between 1 month to a year.
"That's okay, I'd like to keep it on manual control for a while."
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 11:08 AM
 
250 GB Maxtor drive in my g5. I was thinking of getting another one and running some raid... but from the looks of things maybe I shouldn't??
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Aug 16, 2005, 11:10 AM
 
Originally Posted by Tenacious Dyl
250 GB Maxtor drive in my g5. I was thinking of getting another one and running some raid... but from the looks of things maybe I shouldn't??
Seagate seems to be the quietest and most recommended here.

I can vouch for it also.
"That's okay, I'd like to keep it on manual control for a while."
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 11:18 AM
 
I have had problems with Western Digital drives-major problems with their ability to work in warmer environments. I've NEVER had a single bit of problem with Maxtor-not a single bit. They handle the temps that kill WD drives, they are quite quiet, and they are well supported.

IBM/Hitachi drives are, to me, the gold standard, but they have not been as available for upgrade or replacement as Maxtor drives, and those that were available were pretty pricey. WD, on the other hand, is selling their drives at cut-rate prices today because their customer base has voted "NO" because of so many problems.

Maxtor drives aren't bad. But ANY product is going to have some problems now and again. That's what warranties are all about.

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:23 AM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
Maxtor? I thought Apple only used Toshibas and Hitachi drives.
My aluminum Powerbook has a Seagate (100 GB).
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 11:24 AM
 
I'm not sure what brand of drive that I have, but it has almost five years of service.

When I saw the thread title, my first thought was, wish that Apple wasn't so secretive about future plans.

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Aug 16, 2005, 01:08 PM
 
I am wondering about those with HD failures and their habits of running HD optimizing programs. Or lack of.

I've NEVER had a hard drive go bad on me. EVER.

But then again, I use DiskWarrior at least twice a month. Need it or not.
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 01:11 PM
 
I've never had a drive go bad on me, and I don't do drive optimization but what the OS does itself. My dad has, though, and he's big on the defrag-and-optimize thing.
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Aug 16, 2005, 04:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by JoshuaZ
Dude, rickey is like disco, it never really dies.
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 06:14 PM
 
Apple is yams?
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 07:08 PM
 
The only hard disk I've ever had fail is the 80GB TravelStar in my AlBook. (Not catastrophic failure, just occasional IO errors. Apple replaced it.)

I swear by Seagate now, mainly because their 5 year warranty tells me that they have more faith in their products than the others do, who offer only 1 or 3 year warranties.

My desktop has had 2 Maxtors, neither has ever given me trouble.


Apple uses all hard disk brands. Currently:
desktops: Seagate, Maxtor, WD, Fujitsu, Hitachi
laptops: Fujitsu, Toshiba, Hitachi, Seagate

What you get really just depends on which vendor gave Apple a better deal at that moment.

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Aug 16, 2005, 09:28 PM
 
I have a fujitsu in my ibook but its only two years old.
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 10:02 PM
 
Here's the records for me:

Hitachi: no drives yet
Toshiba: 1 purchased, 0 died
Maxtor: 4 purchased, 1 died
WD: 2 purchased, 1 died, 1 defective
Seagate: 3 purchased, 1 died
Fujitsu: 2 purchased, 0 died

I like seagate drives, though if I got a good deal on a maxtor I definitely wouldn't pass it up. WD, I've honestly never really cared for anyway.
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Aug 16, 2005, 10:51 PM
 
My brand new iMac 20" has a Maxtor.
     
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Aug 16, 2005, 11:00 PM
 
My PowerBook's HD died once... mighta been from that fall it took though...
     
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Aug 17, 2005, 07:03 PM
 
My PB-drive recently died horribly (hardware failure), can't remember the brand but it was the 60GB that came with the rev A 17" AlBook. Replaced it with a 5400rpm 120GB Seagate, and boy am I happy. Could this disk be any quieter? I didn't think it was working before I initialized it.

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Aug 17, 2005, 07:04 PM
 
Heh, I wish I could afford to put a new HD in my 12 inch PowerBook. Sadly labour is a lot more than the HD would even cost...
     
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Aug 17, 2005, 08:17 PM
 
I think it's safe to say that hard drive failures in new computers are VERY rare, and since those computers are NEW, they're covered under the warranty.

Since hard drives are built by humans (or at least by human-built machines), they are imperfect. I have drives that have been running without any problem for years, and a couple of drives that would make good doorstops because they-for no discernable reason simply stopped working. The only pattern I've been able to zero in on is that Western Digital desktop drives don't work well without better cooling than I've been able to establish in PC cases without a dedicated drive fan.

Reputation is a major issue. Do you trust the company that makes a particular drive? If not, why not?

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