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centerchannel68 · Mar 25, 2007, 09:38 PM

Hi, I have a lead on a working beocenter 7700 system, with the speakers, very clean. Only issue is it needs a new cartridge for the turntable. I checked ebay, and holy CRAP! Why are cartridges so expensive for this system? I would like to pick up this system, but I can't justify spending $100 on a freakin cartridge.... what the hell! And do they make any that 'adapt' to fit B&O gear? ie, DO I HAVE to buy name brand stuff? Or is their some company that sells some that are 'compatible' with B&O turntables???

I'm hoping analogika can help me out with this question....

ShortcutToMoncton · Mar 26, 2007, 12:07 AM

Beoworld might be able to help you out a little. I've really been looking hard at some B&O gear myself...it's a little harder to find up here in Canada, but I noticed decent 4000-5000-series systems turning up now and again. I've heard good things, but yeah, parts aren't cheap from what I'm told. Plus, the Rega P5 is calling my name so loudly....

greg

Y3a · Mar 26, 2007, 01:23 PM

Hell, I spent 700 on a new ClearAudio Cart. 100 bucks IS NOTHING

analogue SPRINKLES · Mar 26, 2007, 02:44 PM

B&O system look stylish but the technology inside is usually really dated. Not to mention they don't sound that great for the outrageous costs and the usability on many of the products is rather poor.

centerchannel68 · Mar 26, 2007, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Y3a

Hell, I spent 700 on a new ClearAudio Cart. 100 bucks IS NOTHING

Yes, but you are gullible.

analogika · Mar 26, 2007, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Yes, but you are gullible.

You're talking about buying Bang & Olufsen, a company which some people actually consider "high-end" (much like some people consider Bose high-quality), then ask this forum for advice, and then have the nerve to call HIM gullible for buying a ClearAudio cartridge???

...

No, seriously:

Y3a · Mar 26, 2007, 03:43 PM

I DUNNO, B&O is not very good or accurate, but you're getting it because it's pretty or something, and that cheap older stuff is full of no longer produced components, but you are a chump for that sort of stuff.

analogue SPRINKLES · Mar 26, 2007, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Yes, but you are gullible.

Honestly since you own some B&W equipment your pretty gullible yourself dude.

Dakar² · Mar 26, 2007, 03:51 PM

Well this seems to have followed the path of audio threads before it.

Gossamer · Mar 26, 2007, 03:52 PM

But it's not a MacNN audio thread without Doofy and G4ME disagreeing with everything Rob says.

Dakar² · Mar 26, 2007, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

But it's not a MacNN audio thread without Doofy and G4ME disagreeing with everything Rob says.

I'm also disappointed it took 6 posts before BOSE was mentioned.

Gossamer · Mar 26, 2007, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

I'm also disappointed it took 6 posts before BOSE was mentioned.

I saw this infomercial about how Bose is really awesome, plus it looks really cool. I think I'm going to get their surround sound system.

Dakar² · Mar 26, 2007, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

I saw this infomercial about how Bose is really awesome, plus it looks really cool. I think I'm going to get their surround sound system.

Listening to BOSE cures cancer.

::maroma:: · Mar 26, 2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Listening to BOSE cures cancer.

And BOSE systems give top notch BJ's.

Y3a · Mar 26, 2007, 04:06 PM

Your ears fall off.

Dakar² · Mar 26, 2007, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Y3a

Your ears fall off.

Wait, you're saying BOSE isn't good?

Oisín · Mar 26, 2007, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Y3a

Your ears fall off.

You’re saying ears falling off is the sign of a top notch BJ?

centerchannel68 · 04:46 PM

1. I don't own it yet.

2. I don't own it yet.

3. I don't own it yet.

People are ****ing retarded.

And yeah, I think a complete Beocenter 7700 with the fancy pants B&0 fullsize speakers for UNDER $50 is a good deal, don't you? It does need a cartridge though, which makes me hesistant. I think it would be a perfect bedroom stereo.

sek929 · Mar 26, 2007, 04:33 PM

I have an Aiwa stereo with particle-board Fischer speakers hooked up to it, BOSE can't touch me.

Doofy · Mar 26, 2007, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

But it's not a MacNN audio thread without Doofy and G4ME disagreeing with everything Rob says.

Sorry, I don't do vinyl so I'm excused.

G4ME · Mar 26, 2007, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Sorry, I don't do vinyl so I'm excused.

agreed

Paco500 · Mar 26, 2007, 05:13 PM

I have an old B&O turntable I bought for $50 back in the late 80's- looks cool, it plays records.

A rep at a B&O retail sore gave me the name of a company you could buy cartridges from, but I can't remember the name- you might try giving a store a call- it was the one in Tysons Corner Virginia that gave me the info.

analogue SPRINKLES · Mar 26, 2007, 06:01 PM

Ok call me crazy but I don't even know what cartridges are. It makes em sound like inkjet printers

analogika · Mar 26, 2007, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Paco500

B&O retail sore

In a nutshell.

::maroma:: · Mar 26, 2007, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

1. I don't own it yet.

2. I don't own it yet.

3. I don't own it yet.

People are ****ing retarded.

And yeah, I think a complete Beocenter 7700 with the fancy pants B&0 fullsize speakers for UNDER $50 is a good deal, don't you? It does need a cartridge though, which makes me hesistant. I think it would be a perfect bedroom stereo.

You're getting that much of a deal on a B&O system? Just spring for the damn cartridge ya cheap bastid!

analogika · Mar 26, 2007, 06:09 PM

Naah, sorry Rob,

I have no idea about B&O stuff. I'm afraid I can't be of help, so I figured I might as well help lead this thread onto the right path...

centerchannel68 · Mar 26, 2007, 06:22 PM

I received a warning for this thread, for personal attacks. Can anybody point me towards where I was attacking someone personally? I don't see it.

Doofy · Mar 26, 2007, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

I received a warning for this thread, for personal attacks. Can anybody point me towards where I was attacking someone personally? I don't see it.

You called Y3a "gullible"?

residentEvil · Mar 26, 2007, 06:41 PM

you were generalizing; i guess that was considered personal: people are retarded.

and you called one person ***********

didn't know you that was an attack?!?! ha!

********* = gullible. that is now a banned word. you must not keep up with the wanna be mods and their whistle blowing.

centerchannel68 · Mar 26, 2007, 07:04 PM

So calling someone gullible is a god damn personal attack?! Jesus christ. I think we should rename this forum the MacNN Crybabies with Sand in their Vaginas.

centerchannel68 · Mar 26, 2007, 07:06 PM

Here:

http://forums.macnn.com/61/feedback/...me-the-lounge/

::maroma:: · Mar 26, 2007, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

So calling someone gullible is a god damn personal attack?! Jesus christ. I think we should rename this forum the MacNN Crybabies with Sand in their Vaginas.

I take offense to that.

REPORTED!

centerchannel68 · Mar 26, 2007, 08:17 PM

I take offense to that, so there!

analogue SPRINKLES · Mar 26, 2007, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

So calling someone gullible is a god damn personal attack?! Jesus christ. I think we should rename this forum the MacNN Crybabies with Sand in their Vaginas.

Where is all this sand coming from anyway?

zro · Mar 26, 2007, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

So calling someone gullible is a god damn personal attack?! Jesus christ. I think we should rename this forum the MacNN Crybabies with Sand in their Vaginas.

How rich.

Mastrap · Mar 26, 2007, 08:55 PM

B&O looks pretty, sounds ok. We've got a B&O as a kitchen stereo and it's fine, but not great. If you're getting it for under $50 just spring for the cartridge and be done with it.

ghporter · Mar 26, 2007, 09:48 PM

This is a lot of drama over components that most people can't tell don't reproduce 100% of precisely what was recorded. And the recording that will be played over these components? From a CD? From an MP3?

I would not buy a Ferrari to drive to the supermarket. I would not buy the "bestest and baddest" of any audio system to put in an existing structure not built with acoustics and sound reproduction in mind. So B&O is dated; there's merit in "established technology." So what? I have yet to hear of B&O products turning to dust because they were "outdated".

I will agree that if the whole setup costs so little that a new cartridge for the tonearm would be a logical addition.

Ok, not hear this. This is an OFFICIAL STATEMENT: A whole lot of this thread sounds like bashing for the sake of bashing. That is unacceptable. It is not light hearted, it is not jesting, it is not among people treating each other as equals. It WILL stop.

centerchannel68 · Mar 27, 2007, 12:46 AM

Sure. But I WILL NOT take someone who spends $700 on a cartridge seriously. Ever.

Paco500 · Mar 27, 2007, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Paco500

B&O retail sore

Originally Posted by analogika

In a nutshell.

Ok, I wasn't clear.

B&O no longer produce cartridges for my turntable. Based on the design of the one Rob is looking at I'm betting his may no longer be available form B&O either. The slaes guy pointed me to a store that sold what he deemed inexpensive replacement cartridges. Now it's possible that becasue of where he works, his concept of inexpensive is skewed.

analogika · Mar 27, 2007, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Sure. But I WILL NOT take someone who spends $700 on a cartridge seriously. Ever.

Well, that's your problem, isn't it.

You probably wouldn't ever take anybody seriously who spends $1200 on a microphone pre-amp, either.

But that's just 'cuz you're clueless.

Doofy · Mar 27, 2007, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

You probably wouldn't ever take anybody seriously who spends $1200 on a microphone pre-amp, either.

Wow. You using Behringer or are they off the back of a truck or what?

analogika · Mar 27, 2007, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Wow. You using Behringer or are they off the back of a truck or what?

Per-channel, of course.

I only had one piece of Behringer equipment in the audio chain, ever.* I GAVE the ****er away. Yes, it was my first mixer.

(*Actually, somebody just recently gave me a Behringer de-noiser/expander for free. Black-face with red silkscreen. Still designed by the man himself and built in Europe. Supposedly the Behringer stuff of that era is actually pretty good in the sense that it has character (flakiness is not a character trait

). We'll see.)

centerchannel68 · Mar 27, 2007, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

But that's just 'cuz you're clueless.

UH OH! YOU SAID "YOU ARE CLUELESS"! REPORTINATED FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS!

Doofy · Mar 27, 2007, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

Per-channel, of course.

I only had one piece of Behringer equipment in the audio chain, ever.* I GAVE the ****er away. Yes, it was my first mixer.

Heh. I'm currently speccing a new project studio (small but lovely). Got some dweeb I know keeps banging on about how I should buy some Behringer stuff because "they're OK". Amount of times I've told him "No, I'm buying some proper gear" and he still comes back with the same comments is unreal. Source of much amusement, much like these threads.

ghporter · Mar 27, 2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

Well, that's your problem, isn't it.

You probably wouldn't ever take anybody seriously who spends $1200 on a microphone pre-amp, either.

But that's just 'cuz you're clueless.

Why should simple expenditure levels dictate whether someone should be taken seriously about something or not? You could spend that $1200 on a crap preamp, or $300 on a really good one that fits your needs well. Cost basis is a stupid criterion-does the equipment fit the application would be a better criterion.

And suggesting that someone is clueless because they don't agree with you is not appropriate behavior.

Doofy · Mar 27, 2007, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by ghporter

Why should simple expenditure levels dictate whether someone should be taken seriously about something or not?

Ask Rob - he was the one who said he couldn't take people seriously if they bought expensive stuff.

centerchannel68 · Mar 27, 2007, 12:02 PM

I am going to market some teflon based ear lubbricant, to help reflect more sounds and high frequencies into your ear canal. Y3a will be the first person on the planet to buy it.

G4ME · Mar 27, 2007, 12:23 PM

rob just buy one of these and be happy

The Altmann "Tube-o-lator" lacquer

centerchannel68 · Mar 27, 2007, 12:27 PM

Hahhahaahahaha.

Y3a · Mar 27, 2007, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by centerchannel68

Sure. But I WILL NOT take someone who spends $700 on a cartridge seriously. Ever.

Thats OK.. I NEVER take YOU seriously.

Your other audio statements have verified your lack of experience in actually listening.

I'll bet you've never even HEARD a ClearAudio Cart before. I doubt you hear well at all.