[PookJP]

Is there any way to get a hotmail account to work in the Mail Application?

Thanks for any help!

[Technicolor]

No. Hotmail uses a Microsoft proprietary protocol. Outlook (Express) and Entourage are the only mail clients that can do this.

[superblue]

But! This software is very nifty. It runs in the background, regularly checking your hotmail account, then forwards any mail there to an address you specify (one that you CAN use in Mail.app).

http://www.sspi-software.com/mailfwd_macx.html

You need never go to www.hotmail.com again!

[forkies]

Originally posted by superblue:
But! This software is very nifty. It runs in the background, regularly checking your hotmail account, then forwards any mail there to an address you specify (one that you CAN use in Mail.app).

http://www.sspi-software.com/mailfwd_macx.html

You need never go to www.hotmail.com again!

My gosh, how does it do work?! Is it internet magic?

[::maroma::]

Originally posted by PookJP:
Is there any way to get a hotmail account to work in the Mail Application?

"That's unpossible!"

[Cipher13]

Well, your first mistake was using Hotmail...

[[APi]TheMan]

Originally posted by Cipher13:
Well, your first mistake was using Hotmail...

Agreed. But then I paid for my .Mac account... grrr. Better not cost me $100 next year when I have to renew... F that.

[Spliffdaddy]

Hotmail uses http protocol - not 'POP3' or 'IMAP'

Strangely enough, when I upgraded from Outlook Express to the 'regular version' of Outlook which shipped with Office 2000 Premium - I could no longer access my Hotmail account. Seems Outlook doesn't support HTTP mail.

[Moose]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Hotmail uses http protocol - not 'POP3' or 'IMAP'

Strangely enough, when I upgraded from Outlook Express to the 'regular version' of Outlook which shipped with Office 2000 Premium - I could no longer access my Hotmail account. Seems Outlook doesn't support HTTP mail.

Outlook 2002 (Office XP) does.

[snerdini]

Originally posted by Moose:
Outlook 2002 (Office XP) does.

Of course! That way you have to upgrade your office suite so you can get your free email

[forkies]

I'd honestly like to know how the app handles communication with hotmail servers. Does anybody have ideas/web links? I'm curious.

[Visnaut]

I remember seeing plug-ins for Mail.app a while ago. I wouldn't be surprised if someone dedicated enough were to sniff out how Entourage communicates between the Hotmail servers and then write some sort of plugin to allow the creation of hotmail accounts in Mail.app. Now that would be cool.

Does anyone know if this is possible?

[forkies]

Originally posted by Visnaut:
I remember seeing plug-ins for Mail.app a while ago. I wouldn't be surprised if someone dedicated enough were to sniff out how Entourage communicates between the Hotmail servers and then write some sort of plugin to allow the creation of hotmail accounts in Mail.app. Now that would be cool.

Does anyone know if this is possible?

I was takling with my roomate (xeo) after I posted and found this web page: http://www.geocities.com/ballarke/Projects/HttpMail/
He's starting to get into programming with cocoa, and mentioned the possibility of making a Mail.app bundle. It may be able to add this kind of functionality. Would be sweet!

[Anomalous]

Why don't you just switch to mymacmail.com or spymac.com mail?

[ApeInTheShell]

Perhaps they like Hotmail because they can use their passport to access msn messenger.
Get an additional e-mail service and route it though mail.app
Your junk mail goes away.

[PookJP]

Aside from mymacmail.com (which isn't taking new accounts) and spymac.com (which has a habit of being rather slow), what else is there for IMAP and POP3? Yahoo requires a subscription to get POP access, hotmail doesn't do it at all, and .mac costs too damn much.

What other IMAP and POP3 options are there??

[Xeo]

It's not the Mail.app bundle I had hoped for, but it works just as well.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hotwayd/

I plan to post a tutorial for installing once I do it a second time to make sure I don't put anyone on the wrong track. I'd love to make this a double-click installer but that's not an easy thing for me to do.

[sniffer]

Hmm.. Msn Messanger gives me one click access to my hotmail/MS-spammail account..

[MacManMikeOSX]

if outlook wont get your hotmail go to microsofts page and get the update. They changed the way their protical works awhile ago.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by Xeo:
I plan to post a tutorial for installing...

I'm not doing the tutorial. Instead, I made a fink package. Once it's submitted, it will be nothing more than a "fink install hotway" and you're done. If anyone is interested in the .info and .patch files I made, let me know and I can manually e-mail them to you. Otherwise, just wait for them to be included as fink packages.

[CyberGreg]

Please let us know when this is available and if you need someone to test it, please let me know.

Thanks

[Xeo]

Originally posted by CyberGreg:
Please let us know when this is available and if you need someone to test it, please let me know.

Thanks

If you want to test:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index...03&atid=414256

Please post results of the test there as well. The more testing of the package, the faster it will get stable status.

[Bouba]

could you make a .pkg to install it?

I've installed the developper tools, fink, etc, but I can't get it to compile properly...

I'm really new to this kind of stuff!!!
thanks for you efforts on this

[bborofka]

A good, free alternative to Hotmail is Fastmail.fm. I've been using it since .Mac started costing $, and It's been great. It uses IMAP, as well as HTTP for checking email. That means I can use it in Mail, and check my email online when I'm away. It ain't the prettiest looking website, but it works great, and there's no ads.

[Macpilot]

Anybody here know how to configure Mail to work with the Hotmail pluggin? I installed the hotmail pluggin and can't seem to get it to work.

Thanks!

[lazydesert]

Use this.. because it works perfectly and is easy to set up.
http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/10842

[Macpilot]

Uh....maybe I am missing something, but I see nothing that explains how to set up this pluggin after I installed it. How do you set up the Preferences in Mail and Internet Prefs to get this thing to work?

[tr]

seemed kinda straight forward to me. just create a new account, and make sure the type is hotmail, and the server is www.hotmail.com.

maybe you might want to check out the help forum for this:

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=255104

tr

[Macpilot]

Thanks dude....

Actually just installed that Mail Forward app and it works great for the time being.

[Timo]

First, get the plug in here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/httpmail-plugin/

Then follow the directions in the read-me:

Installation instructions:

Before starting make sure the Mail application isn't running

The plugin must be correctly installed and activated for each user.

1. First you must identify the correct folder in which to install the plug-in. The path is likely to be:
Macintosh HD / Users / [current user name] / Library / Mail / Bundles, depending on how your disk is organized and labeled. Double-click on your hard drive to open it then select and open the Users folder. Select the current user's folder - the icon looks like a home - and open it.

Look for the Library folder, then the Mail folder. In the Mail folder, if you do not see a Bundles folder, you must create this folder by selecting File / New Folder and name it Bundles.

Copy the httpmail.mailbundle folder (from the drive httpmail plugin v1.3) to the Bundles folder.

2. In the Applications folder, look for the Utilities folder. Open the Terminal application. Execute the following command in a Terminal window, paying great attention to the exact spelling, then press return.

defaults write com.apple.mail EnableBundles 1


Using copy and paste is a good way to enter the above text


3. Start Mail and open the Preferences panel. Press the Add Account button. In the Accounts panel, you should see a new entry in the Account Type list: httpmail.

Add as many new Hotmail accounts as you need by filling the required settings for each account.



4. Fill the Description, Email Address and Full Name fields as you deem appropriate. Enter hotmail.com in the Incoming Mail Server field, then your Hotmail login (for example I would put danielparnell, without the @hotmail.com!) in the User Name field and your password into the Password field.

[nerd]

Originally posted by lazydesert:
Use this.. because it works perfectly and is easy to set up.
http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/10842

Just did that for the girlfriends iMac. Worked great, thanks.

Brad