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Paco500 · Jun 27, 2007, 06:48 AM

Free w/ phone

Rumor · Jun 27, 2007, 03:43 PM

This is at work. I tested it a couple of times and was told different suggested test servers each time. Funny thing is, I'm less than 200 miles from SF.

olePigeon · Jun 27, 2007, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by USB HUB

Just as FYI .. for those of you who have DSL with a land line. I'm pretty sure you can have the land line disconnected but keep the DSL. At VZ, you can do that. I've been checking into it also as we don't use our line that much. You can also see if you can have your land line set up to only allow for 911 callout (some companies have that option). But that may not get rid of the fees (which unfortunately are crap but regulated). Just a thought....

Possibly. Supposedly because of the AT&T/SBC merger AT&T has to unbundle phone service. That was last year. It's not middle 2007 and they still haven't done it (at least, not in California.)

Railroader · Jun 27, 2007, 05:30 PM

Free. Supplied with the house.

I have almost no issues with the speed. My only one is that the upload is too slow when I am updating my smugmug account. Download speed is more than adequate.

angelmb · Jun 28, 2007, 04:05 AM

my upload - donwload speed ratio doesn't make any sense, huh?

MacPino · Jun 28, 2007, 06:21 AM

€35,- / $47,-

jebjeb · Jun 28, 2007, 06:38 AM

This is over 3G mobile with T-mobile in the UK for £10/month on top of my normal monthly fee. That is "Unlimited" which means it can be tethered to a laptop and a rough max down load of 2GB per month.

This is on a Nokia 6280 so it is not HSDPA. I am looking to pick up a HSDPA handset and then I should be looking at around 1.4 mb down for the same price.

Just changed fixed line broadband suppliers. Should be installed in a couple of weeks. 16mb down for £10 month "unlimited" (through Sky as I have their TV package already).

Kevin · Jun 28, 2007, 06:51 AM

The US has tons more land to cover than these smaller places that have been named.

ebuddy · Jun 28, 2007, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

$34 a month.

I seem to recall getting better results (like twice that, for some reason) when I actually plug into the router rather than running it over Airport.

I love the dashboard interface on that site. I'm at 4507 up, 538 down. You're right about running direct to the router. I'm through airport as well.

ebuddy · Jun 28, 2007, 07:22 AM

Part of the issue is when the Broadband company runs the ROI on their infrastructure, they make the decision based on potential penetration in the market. Many companies are still running @ 750Mhz and because of their digital video options/DVR, digital phone, etc... they need to upgrade (mod swap) to at least 850Mhz, 1gig, and eventually 2gig spectrums.

The broadband company here (of which I'm an employee, not a salesman

) offers 3 tiers of service with its top tier providing up to 15Mbps down, 2 Mbps up. You can "bundle" your internet with your phone and Video and generally save a considerable amount of money. The cost of the upgrade in infrastructure to the broadband company is high and our upgrade schedule is aggressive, but this is a very hungry market for bandwidth. Commercial customers have another tier of service entirely with primary differences being in enhanced upload speeds. Also, when considering "powerboosts" allocating HFC resources to large-file downloads, you can experience even greater speeds, but again-most plants are not upgraded appropriately to handle all the services prevalent on upstream bandwidth today. If market conditions showed a strong demand for higher speeds, the communications firm would be compelled to upgrade their infrastructure.

As some have mentioned though, costs can be prohibitive for many. I've gone back and forth between the middle and top tiers and honestly, while the speeds are in fact faster with the top tier; little difference is witnessed because of limiting factors of servers, sites, etc... that cannot be helped by faster connections on your end. That said, if I didn't enjoy such an immense discount on my services, I'd likely have the lowest tier of service.

My speeds are 4507kb/s down, 538kb/s up and I'm on the middle tier.

residentEvil · Jun 28, 2007, 07:33 AM

not too shabby from work. upload is speed is being capped by the testing site in chicago. they numbers would be the same.

IceEnclosure · Jun 28, 2007, 07:42 AM

I thought my last results were a little low:

badidea · Jun 30, 2007, 07:40 AM

16MBit/1Mbit down/up
incl. telephone flat for €49

analogika · Jun 30, 2007, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by badidea

16MBit/1Mbit down/up
incl. telephone flat for €49

Same contract:

(Though IIRC they bumped me down to 10 or 12 Mbit, as my line was unstable at 16.)

nerd · Jun 30, 2007, 02:21 PM

This is the Comcast 8mb/768 but they have the speed boost which will increase speeds for a certain amount of time. I can upload at 300KB/s until I hit around the 12MB mark then it slows to 96KB/s. Price is around $68 a month after taxes.

IceEnclosure · Jun 30, 2007, 03:02 PM

So where's the people with these really really fast lines? I guess there's not a lot of South Koreans posting here. : \

Trygve · Jun 30, 2007, 05:32 PM

Prague, Czech Republic for about $85/mo

Advertised as 12mb DN, 2mb UP and pretty close to it.

Jumbonium2007 · Jun 30, 2007, 08:31 PM

3MB Thru charter 19.99 a month for 3 months then 54.99 a month after.. Craptastic but its all we have here

osiris · Jun 30, 2007, 08:51 PM

This is pay-through-the-nose Time Warner Cable, $140/mo. for 1000+ channels and the internets, delivered by former Miss Universe contestants, nude, via a limo.

Troll · Jul 1, 2007, 05:05 AM

This is using the ADSL subscription I mentioned earlier from Free in France. 30 Euros a month including unlimited international and local calls plus TV.

Via wi-fi:

Ethernet:

pheonixash · Jul 1, 2007, 12:02 PM

~$40/mo

Cipher13 · Jul 3, 2007, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by USB HUB

Just as FYI .. for those of you who have DSL with a land line. I'm pretty sure you can have the land line disconnected but keep the DSL. At VZ, you can do that. I've been checking into it also as we don't use our line that much. You can also see if you can have your land line set up to only allow for 911 callout (some companies have that option). But that may not get rid of the fees (which unfortunately are crap but regulated). Just a thought....

WIth regard to infrastructure, it is not possible to have an ADSL connection without an active phone line. Whether your telco *chooses* to charge you line rental or not is their prerogative, however.

Their wholesaler will charge them for it, though.

At least, that's the way it is in Australia.

KisforKennedy · Jul 4, 2007, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

I hate cable because you can't have more than 2 people playing a low-latency game at once (ping times get horrible) and I hate DSL because they force you to buy a voice plan to get the data plan, even though it doesn't need the voice plan.

Since I play games quite often, I'm forced to buy DSL and a phone line that does nothing but get FAX machines all day because the number used to be a computer repair business.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh man. You just made me laugh out loud, a lot. That sounds like one of my personal version of hell. AHhaHAhaHAH. Moving into a place with a phone number that used to be... a ****ing computer business, and all the fake calls aren't even people you can tell to **** off, it's ****ing FAXES!

AHHAhahAHAH god that must suck!

I feel sorry for you, but at the same time, I find that extremely hilarious.

KisforKennedy · Jul 4, 2007, 04:03 AM

$15 a month. Good enough for me. I have a server at night for downloads, and it plays games fine..... don't really need anything faster, and at this price, who can argue?

Troll · 12:14 PM

I averaged the Speedtest results out for all y'all. There are 20 entries from North America, 7 from Europe and 5 from Eurasia.

Asia
Download: 12,412 kb/s
Download: 1,404 kb/s

Europe
Download: 10,092 kb/s
Upload: 846 kb/s

N. America
Download: 5,728 kb/s
Upload: 551 kb/s

KisforKennedy · Jul 5, 2007, 11:11 AM

How come on that speed test site that everybody just used it shows Northa America as being ahead?

Troll · Jul 5, 2007, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by KisforKennedy

How come on that speed test site that everybody just used it shows Northa America as being ahead?

It doesn't. The bigger the number, the better. It's not a very scientific study that we've conducted but our results show US connections being quite significantly slower than European and Asian connections. That said, both the fastest and the slowest connections in this pool are in the US.

KisforKennedy · Jul 5, 2007, 12:24 PM

Oh, I was looking at continents.

forkies · Jul 5, 2007, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Troll

Asia
Download: 12,412 kb/s
Download: 1,404 kb/s

wow my speeds got ****ed by averaging them

Originally Posted by Troll

That said, both the fastest and the slowest connections in this pool are in the US.

how do ya figure? us seems slow as ass

Troll · Jul 6, 2007, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by KisforKennedy

Oh, I was looking at continents.

Sorry, I meant continents. N. America is the slowest of the three ... although, as I said, this is not very scientific.

Troll · Jul 6, 2007, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by forkies

how do ya figure? us seems slow as ass

Somewhere back there, there was one very fast speed and it came from the US.

Kevin · Jul 6, 2007, 04:36 AM

The deal really is, you can only get as fast as the person you are downloading from. No matter where it be. I've never not had enough bandwidth to cover everything I was downloading at once. After that, it's just over-kill. I even stepped down a "tier" because I had bandwidth I was paying for, and simply not using.

forkies · Jul 8, 2007, 04:25 AM

it's cuz almost everyone's been posting kb/s, not kB/s

Kevin · Jul 10, 2007, 07:00 AM

What is? Who were you replying to?

SVass · 04:48 PM

Comcast

Rumor · Jul 12, 2007, 08:55 PM

A 75 year old lady has a faster connection than any of us for her first computer.

SirCastor · Jul 14, 2007, 05:27 PM

I pay half of $56 I think... We're still on a special deal, so $15 at the moment for the next few months.

Jim Paradise · Jul 14, 2007, 08:03 PM

dav · Jul 14, 2007, 08:07 PM

cable ~$40/mo.

EndlessMac · Jul 16, 2007, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Rumor

A 75 year old lady has a faster connection than any of us for her first computer.

Wow that's some crazy fast internet connection. A high def DVD only takes two seconds to download! I wish I had it. It's kind of wasted on a 75 year old lady who just got her first computer but apparently she has a famous son.

CharlesS · Jul 16, 2007, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by EndlessMac

Wow that's some crazy fast internet connection. A high def DVD only takes two seconds to download!

Only if the place you're downloading it from also has a 40 gigabit connection.

EndlessMac · Jul 16, 2007, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Only if the place you're downloading it from also has a 40 gigabit connection.

Hey don't crush my dreams like that.

Obi Wan's Ghost · Jul 16, 2007, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Only if the place you're downloading it from also has a 40 gigabit connection.

Is there some kind of special crazy hard disc that can write data at 40 Gb/s? And which computer has she got that can move data across the mobo at that speed? What I/O ports and bus is she using? I can't imagine the practical speed being anything close to 40Gb/s.

Rumor · Jul 16, 2007, 03:46 AM

The computer she has probably can't move data that fast. However, as connections become faster, then hardware will follow.

Doofy · Jul 16, 2007, 04:57 AM

Here's an interesting thing:

10 mbps leased line, UK: $132,000 per year.
155mbps leased line, US: $30,000 per year.

NobleMatt · Jul 16, 2007, 05:01 AM

(UK)

using Virgin Media's 2 for £20 (TV and 2mb broadband (i think its 2mb))

CharlesS · Jul 16, 2007, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Is there some kind of special crazy hard disc that can write data at 40 Gb/s? And which computer has she got that can move data across the mobo at that speed? What I/O ports and bus is she using? I can't imagine the practical speed being anything close to 40Gb/s.

Yeah, not to mention that Gigabit Ethernet (or maybe 10 Gigabit Ethernet) is the fastest way she's going to be able to get data to go into her computer in the first place.

KisforKennedy · Jul 16, 2007, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Troll

I averaged the Speedtest results out for all y'all. There are 20 entries from North America, 7 from Europe and 5 from Eurasia.

Asia
Download: 12,412 kb/s
Download: 1,404 kb/s

Europe
Download: 10,092 kb/s
Upload: 846 kb/s

N. America
Download: 5,728 kb/s
Upload: 551 kb/s

Originally Posted by Troll

It doesn't. The bigger the number, the better. It's not a very scientific study that we've conducted but our results show US connections being quite significantly slower than European and Asian connections. That said, both the fastest and the slowest connections in this pool are in the US.

Originally Posted by forkies

wow my speeds got ****ed by averaging them

how do ya figure? us seems slow as ass

Originally Posted by Troll

Sorry, I meant continents. N. America is the slowest of the three ... although, as I said, this is not very scientific.

Obi Wan's Ghost · Jul 17, 2007, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Yeah, not to mention that Gigabit Ethernet (or maybe 10 Gigabit Ethernet) is the fastest way she's going to be able to get data to go into her computer in the first place.

Even if she could get a 10Gbit Ethernet socket he motherboard's bus and hard disc can't get close to being able to write data that fast. SATA hard drives don't come close enough.

CharlesS · Jul 17, 2007, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Even if she could get a 10Gbit Ethernet socket he motherboard's bus and hard disc can't get close to being able to write data that fast. SATA hard drives don't come close enough.

Uh, yeah, I kind of understand that. I was just pointing out yet another bottleneck keeping her from getting the 40 Mbps speed that this article is claiming she has.