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View Poll Results: Who will remain alive at the end of a duel?
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Human vs Lion (Big cat big picture)
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depends if the lion likes gays or not

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Mar 26, 2005, 02:26 AM
 
There is a reason humans dominate this planet. The lion is physically stronger, but we are much smarter. A human would plan ahead and take a shotgun to the duel, while the lion would not contemplate doing such a thing.

Can you tell I'm a big proponent of evolutionary theory?
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I can't tell if that is gay bashing or not
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Mar 26, 2005, 04:02 PM
 
Originally posted by Detrius:
There is a reason humans dominate this planet. The lion is physically stronger, but we are much smarter. A human would plan ahead and take a shotgun to the duel, while the lion would not contemplate doing such a thing.

Can you tell I'm a big proponent of evolutionary theory?
What good is a shotgun without ammo? Lion 1 You 0
     
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Mar 26, 2005, 04:09 PM
 
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/lionhunt.wmv

And just incase you think a shotgun will stop a lion. (WARNING: Graphic. Lion's shot 3 times by a very high-powered rifle, but it doesn't stop him, charges and misses the guy's head by millimeters. Sigh, I was rooting for the lion.)
     
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Mar 26, 2005, 04:17 PM
 
Originally posted by olePigeon:
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/lionhunt.wmv

And just incase you think a shotgun will stop a lion. (WARNING: Graphic. Lion's shot 3 times by a very high-powered rifle, but it doesn't stop him, charges and misses the guy's head by millimeters. Sigh, I was rooting for the lion.)
I think they only hit him once. Either way though, humans can't take shots like that. BTW, people that hunt animals like that suck.
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Mar 26, 2005, 06:42 PM
 
Originally posted by olePigeon:
What good is a shotgun without ammo? Lion 1 You 0
You still proved my point. As you are a human and not a lion, you thought of the additional detail that you need ammunition.

And if you think that a shotgun isn't enough, then just get a rocket launcher. These are all human creations.
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alright, you with a baseball bat and a lion... who would win?
     
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Jan 4, 2008, 03:52 AM
 
even if Barry Bonds swung a baseball bat at a lion's paw as it's claws were nearing his face.. I don't think it'd stop a lion. Maybe a direct hit to the noggen of a sleeping lion would do the trick.
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Zombie lion for teh win.
     
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Originally Posted by cadena10 View Post
alright, you with a baseball bat and a lion... who would win?
The guy with the baseball bat and the lion.

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Originally Posted by IceEnclosure View Post
even if Barry Bonds swung a baseball bat at a lion's paw as it's claws were nearing his face.. I don't think it'd stop a lion. Maybe a direct hit to the noggen of a sleeping lion would do the trick.

You step to the side and swing at the back of the head.

Barry Bonds couldn't do it, but Chuck Norris could.

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Jan 4, 2008, 05:49 AM
 
Actually, you mentally draw an "X" between the lion's eyes and ears, then aim 1/2" above the center of the "X".

Dead lion.

With practice you can visualize it almost instantly.


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Jan 4, 2008, 10:35 AM
 
When I have lion problems, I just call an exterminator.
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close, but it's in Los Angeles - LA Lion Removal and Extermination, LLC.
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The Romans conducted this experiment extensively, but the sampling was distorted. Christians are wimps.
     
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Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
Actually, you mentally draw an "X" between the lion's eyes and ears, then aim 1/2" above the center of the "X".

Dead lion.
You'd have to be quick. Very quick. A lion is not going to stand still while you mentally render an X on his head. At any rate, if a person finds himself to be in such a situation, it's probably out of one's own stupidity (in which case, I'm going to have to root for the lion).
     
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Originally Posted by lpkmckenna View Post
The Romans conducted this experiment extensively, but the sampling was distorted. Christians are wimps.
They weren't wimps, they just didn't have baseball bats.
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Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
They weren't wimps, they just didn't have baseball bats.
Christians with baseball bats? <shudder>
     
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Originally Posted by ::maroma:: View Post
Christians with baseball bats? <shudder>
If that scares you, never join a summer softball league.
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Now, if it was a liger instead, then it would be interesting...

meet Hercules the liger - in pic, ~3 years old and about 1400lbs, and still growing.

     
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Ligers tend towards gigantism, which is a little sad. Often when they reach a certain age they have trouble moving around.
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Wow.

Just because...

 
     
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Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
Ligers tend towards gigantism, which is a little sad. Often when they reach a certain age they have trouble moving around.
Then they make for good eating.
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ok for all you skeptics... its not as if my feet are taped to the ground and i am unable to dodge out of the way as the lion pursues me full speed or not. I am going to dodge out of the way just as the lion jumps at me and hit him and as big of a target as a lion is I will not miss. leg, head whichever, I will hurt the lion, that lion will not be full speed. in the event of a hurt lion, I will than continue to bash the lion every time it may or may not pursue me. Ok... that is not to say a lion will lose every time, man just has the greater odds.
     
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Some men (or women) would have greater odds, but I'd venture to guess it's less than 1 in 500. Probably much less.
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Originally Posted by cadena10 View Post
ok for all you skeptics... its not as if my feet are taped to the ground and i am unable to dodge out of the way as the lion pursues me full speed or not. I am going to dodge out of the way just as the lion jumps at me and hit him and as big of a target as a lion is I will not miss. leg, head whichever, I will hurt the lion, that lion will not be full speed. in the event of a hurt lion, I will than continue to bash the lion every time it may or may not pursue me. Ok... that is not to say a lion will lose every time, man just has the greater odds.
But the lion only has to hit you once.
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Originally Posted by cadena10 View Post
ok for all you skeptics... its not as if my feet are taped to the ground and i am unable to dodge out of the way as the lion pursues me full speed or not. I am going to dodge out of the way just as the lion jumps at me
You obviously have no conception of the following things:
1. How poor a civilized human being's reflexes actually are
2. How slow a human being actually is
3. How weak a human being actually is

There is no way in hell you'd be able to "dodge away" from a lion. Your only hope would be the same as people who encounter big cats or bears in the wild: to scream and kick and maybe ineffectually hit it once or twice, and hope the animal isn't angry enough that it just shrugs and goes elsewhere to look for an easier meal.

If it's pissed off and determined to kill you, I give you...15 seconds of life.

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Originally Posted by Kvasir View Post
Now, if it was a liger instead, then it would be interesting...

meet Hercules the liger - in pic, ~3 years old and about 1400lbs, and still growing.

My God, that's a big cat.
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Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton View Post
You obviously have no conception of the following things:
1. How poor a civilized human being's reflexes actually are
2. How slow a human being actually is
3. How weak a human being actually is

There is no way in hell you'd be able to "dodge away" from a lion. Your only hope would be the same as people who encounter big cats or bears in the wild: to scream and kick and maybe ineffectually hit it once or twice, and hope the animal isn't angry enough that it just shrugs and goes elsewhere to look for an easier meal.

If it's pissed off and determined to kill you, I give you...15 seconds of life.

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True. All that thinking slows you down, plus the fear and the lack of muscle. Mr Lion operating on instict has all the advantages.

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I know a few highly trained people who, if properly equipped (sans firearms), could probably kill a pissed-off, fully-grown lion. However, we're talking body armor, spears, a sword (or axe), and a weighted net wouldn't hurt.

The average joe, >99.9% of people, would almost certainly be lion chow.
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right, a lion is faster and stronger, but its as if im having a race against the lion of lifting competition. Its facing me head on. I would be able to dodge out of the way. you people exagerate the dexterity of a lion. just watch the video
YouTube - Lion Attacks Man

oh ****, he dodged a lion, Thats NEVER supposed to happen.
     
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its "NOT" as if
     
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Originally Posted by cadena10 View Post
right, a lion is faster and stronger, but its as if im having a race against the lion of lifting competition. Its facing me head on. I would be able to dodge out of the way. you people exagerate the dexterity of a lion. just watch the video
YouTube - Lion Attacks Man

oh ****, he dodged a lion, Thats NEVER supposed to happen.
The lion barely brushed him and still knocked him flat. It was probably distracted by the bullets whizzing by it's head. Ya think?

Let's watch more of the video: YouTube - LION ATTACKS HUNTER

Plus, there are 4 hunters shooting at it. Take those rifles away and give them machetes, then we'll see how well they do. Personally, I wish the lion had killed them all.
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Originally Posted by cadena10 View Post
oh ****, he dodged a lion, Thats NEVER supposed to happen.
The lion gets hit just before he made his leap. Watch the video; he takes at least one point-blank rifle shot and his haunches slide out right when he should be jumping. And yet he still manages to swipe at the guy, tumble, and then get to his feet and run away.

You claim you can "dodge around" one of the greatest terrestrial predators in the world, and then post a video of a shot lion desperately charging at 4 guys sniping at him with rifles? You amateur. You clearly have no idea how fast wild animals really are.

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Jan 12, 2008, 01:40 PM
 
Hey cadena10, is that number your age?

Your fantasy about how you would deal with a lion attack sure sounds pretty childish.

you people exagerate the dexterity of a lion


Lemme quote my ol' buddy Greg hereâ€Ĥin case you missed it:

You obviously have no conception of the following things:
1. How poor a civilized human being's reflexes actually are
2. How slow a human being actually is
3. How weak a human being actually is

There is no way in hell you'd be able to "dodge away" from a lion. Your only hope would be the same as people who encounter big cats or bears in the wild: to scream and kick and maybe ineffectually hit it once or twice, and hope the animal isn't angry enough that it just shrugs and goes elsewhere to look for an easier meal.
That pretty much sums it up.

Originally Posted by ShortcutToMontcon
â€Ĥone of the greatest terrestrial predators in the world
That is, however, a great exaggeration.
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Heh heh heh...really? Counting tigers and lions in the same "big-cat" category, I can't think of too many other predatory species who would be superior. Some species of bears for sure; probably some of the big snakes...actually that's all I can come up with off the top of my head. Most predatory species generally seem to come from the dog/cat/bear families.

Why would you not say that lions are not one of the most fearsome predator species?

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Why would you not say that lions are not one of the most fearsome predator species?

I'm guessing because the actual most fearsome predator species live in water.




     
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I would think the term "terrestrial", in this instance, means land-based critters.
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nm.
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² View Post
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about do you smacintush?
You're right.

I just never liked lions.
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...racist?
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Originally Posted by cadena10 View Post
ok for all you skeptics... its not as if my feet are taped to the ground and i am unable to dodge out of the way as the lion pursues me full speed or not. I am going to dodge out of the way just as the lion jumps at me and hit him and as big of a target as a lion is I will not miss. leg, head whichever, I will hurt the lion, that lion will not be full speed. in the event of a hurt lion, I will than continue to bash the lion every time it may or may not pursue me. Ok... that is not to say a lion will lose every time, man just has the greater odds.
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